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2007-03-01 Thread Emmanuel Skordalakes
Emmanuel Skordalakes, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Gene Expression and Regulation Program The Wistar Institute 3601 Spruce St Philadelphia, PA 19104 215-495-6884 Office 215-898-2202 Lab [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Swiss humour - no laughing matter? (Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data)

2007-03-01 Thread Klaus Piontek
Greetings (or in "correct" Swiss German "Grüezi wohl", with Umlaut=vowel mutation) to all CCP4BB subscribers, being a CCP4BB reader (and sometimes writer) since something like 15 years, I realized today that the comment of Gerard was the first one I read since then containing a side-swipe r

Re: [ccp4bb] MTZ to Shel-X?

2007-03-01 Thread Martin Hallberg
I would probably prioritize keeping the same R-free set (thus using the F^2 output by mtz2various) over going through the scalepack format and loosing track of it. You can however use XPREP to transfer the R-free set from the "inferior" F^2 HKLF4 file output by mtz2various to the proper int

[ccp4bb] overly sarcastic reply

2007-03-01 Thread vanraaij
Dear All, my reply the other day was, I agree, a bit overly sarcastic and I should have refrained from sending that mail. I hope Shivesh and you all will forgive me, as I'm not such an unmissable part of CCP4BB as Tassos is. Also, it appears the Gods of CCP4 punish immediately, as today I am

Re: [ccp4bb] Extraction of test set from CNS reflection file

2007-03-01 Thread Olve Peersen
A few years ago I did this by first using the solved structure to generate a hypothetical (FCALC) data set to some rather optimistic resolution limit (2A when I was stuck at 2.7), carrying out a random Rfree selection on this FCALC set, and then dumping the FCALCs while retaining the Rfree

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD of pairs of atoms?

2007-03-01 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
Risking a potentially trivial question: Is there a program that will calculate the RMS of distances between specified (listed) atoms in two different structures? As far as I could see, LSQMAN will only compute same with same? lsqman does in fact calculate rmsd valus between arbitrary sets of a

Re: [ccp4bb] MTZ to Shel-X?

2007-03-01 Thread Kolstoe S.E.
Yes I have always been annoyed by that. I tend to use sftools to trim and then rename the columns I want followed by mtz2various with something along the lines of "labin FP=F SIGFP=SIGF FREE=FreeR" and then finally edit the resulting text file to remove the header and all the "FREE"'s as you did. I

Re: [ccp4bb] MTZ to Shel-X?

2007-03-01 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 01 March 2007 10:17, Ian Tickle wrote: > > All, I thought this would be a simple task, but for the life of me I > can't see how to do it! All I want to do is convert an MTZ file to > Shel-X format for refinement. I thought it would take me 2 secs, but > it's taken me at least 5 attem

Re: [ccp4bb] Extraction of test set from CNS reflection file

2007-03-01 Thread Axel Brunger
Actually, the merge script will create the superset of both reflection data sets, so it won't delete reflections from one data set that are not present in the other data set. Once you have done the "merge.inp" script, you can use the "make_cv" script to extend your test set while keeping yo

Re: [ccp4bb] luzzati numbers in ccp4/refmac

2007-03-01 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 01 March 2007 10:32, John Bruning wrote: > Where can I generate the following numbers in CCP4 coming with pdb and mtz > from Refmac? > > Luzzati SigmaA (obs) > Luzzati ESD (R-free set) > Luzzati SigmaA (R-free set). The answer is that you should not be using Luzatti plots to estimate

[ccp4bb] luzzati numbers in ccp4/refmac

2007-03-01 Thread John Bruning
Where can I generate the following numbers in CCP4 coming with pdb and mtz from Refmac? Luzzati SigmaA (obs) Luzzati ESD (R-free set) Luzzati SigmaA (R-free set). If the answer is sfcheck, where exactly are the numbers located, all I can find is Luzzati ESD overall?

[ccp4bb] MTZ to Shel-X?

2007-03-01 Thread Ian Tickle
All, I thought this would be a simple task, but for the life of me I can't see how to do it! All I want to do is convert an MTZ file to Shel-X format for refinement. I thought it would take me 2 secs, but it's taken me at least 5 attempts, and it's still not right! First I tried mtz2various w

Re: [ccp4bb] Extraction of test set from CNS reflection file

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
1) Convert the CNS protein alone reflection file to an mtz file with FreeR flags labelled 2) Convert ligand data to myz file - easiest to use the IMPORT scaled data tool in Data Processing module if you have a *.sca file. Say you want to import FreeR flag from another mtz file (the protein-al

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD of pairs of atoms?

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
LSQKAB will do that - see Coordinate utilities. You can either match ATOM 7 to 9 MATCH ATOM 17 to 19 etc etc - laborious Or ask MATCH RESIDUE 22 to 31 to Residue 42 to 51 OUTP RMS XYZ It makes a huge list to RMSTAB of all distances.. Eleanor Jan Lowe wrote: Risking a potentially trivial

Re: [ccp4bb] strict NCS rotation/translation matrices

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Vineet Gaur wrote: Hi all we r trying to solve astructure with two molecules in the asu. we were initially refining using CNS by applying strict NCS. Now we want to shift to REFMAC. How can we apply the rotation translation matrices as determined using CNS, while refining with REFMAC. Addition

Re: [ccp4bb] Filament lifetime on Rigaku Micromax007

2007-03-01 Thread Kevin Jude
I use a multimeter from Radioshack (catalog number 22-812) that can record this data on a PC via a serial connection. Presumably by now there is a similar device with a USB connection. Publishing the resulting text file on the web would be effortless on a *nix machine, but I'm not sure how to do

[ccp4bb] Extraction of test set from CNS reflection file

2007-03-01 Thread Florian Brückner
Dear colleagues, I have a dataset form a protein-ligand complex. I want to use the same Rfree test set for refinement as used for the protein alone. How can I extract the test set from the CNS reflection file of the protein-alone dataset (created with make_cv) to use it with the protein-ligand

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Arti S. Pandey
We all begin at some point, and should help ourselves before we ask others for help. Shivesh's question shows he has not even tried looking at programs, initiate things on his own. I think such e mails should be discouraged. I found what Mark said quite funny. All my labmates were laughing.. Ar

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer library in refmac5

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hmm - I think this is a bug.. Garib - what do you think? Eleanor Jianghai Zhu wrote: Dear all, I have some N-acetyl-glucosamine (NAG) in my structure. When I searched the monomer library in CCP4 6.0.1, I found out that NAG is actually N-acetyl-glucose, which is much less common, I believe.

Re: [ccp4bb] R-free error in highest resolution bin

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
John Bruning wrote: When using Refmac how does one find/calculate R-free error in the highest resolution bin? Look at your loggraph for the final R Rfee - that gives the numbers in resolution shells. Eleanor

[ccp4bb] FW: Vacancy in Small Angle Neutron Scattering at ILL, Grenoble.

2007-03-01 Thread timmins
Attached is an advertisement for a 5 year scientist post in Small Angle Neutron Scattering at the ILL. It is also posted on the ILL site at www.ill.fr (Jobs and Careers) Peter Timmins VACANCY RESEARCH SCIENTIST (Neutron Small Angle Scattering) (m/f) The Institut Laue-Langevin (ILL), situated

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
shivesh kumar wrote: Dear all, I have a data set at 2.2A, of the selenomethionene labelled protein.How should I process the data.Thanx for the help. Shivesh I think you should ask your local crystallographer for help. There are several programs ( MOSFLM in CCP4, DENZO, XDS, D*TREK ) but you

Re: [ccp4bb] Cannot running NTA to purify the protein having His-tag?

2007-03-01 Thread artem
Indeed Strep-II (please note there is also a Strep-I which is not as good!) tag is a good tag to try if you can. There are a few caveats that you may want to consider when trying it: 0. if things work out, Strep-II affinity purification can yield essentially pure protein in one step. The question

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer library in refmac5

2007-03-01 Thread Jianghai Zhu
What do you know? The NAG-B-D in ccp4 monomer library is actually N- acetyl-D-glucosamine, even the description says it is N-acetyl-D- glucose. After I pulled out the structure from the cif file, I found it is actually the structure I am looking for but with a wrong name. So I guess if you

Re: [ccp4bb] Very weird

2007-03-01 Thread Yanming Zhang
Hi, Yes refmac, use weighting term 0.05 Thanks On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Tim Gruene wrote: How did you do the refinement? Did you use refmac? Did you let the matrix value at 0.5? That's too high. lower it to, say, 0.1 to start with. Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD of pairs of atoms?

2007-03-01 Thread James Whisstock
Also MUSTANG (multiple structural alignments) can be configured to output such data. http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/~arun/mustang/ J Ruben Martinez-Buey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Dear Jan, > I think GROMACS can do that (www.gromacs.org): > __

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD of pairs of atoms?

2007-03-01 Thread Ruben Martinez-Buey
Dear Jan, I think GROMACS can do that (www.gromacs.org): g_confrms computes the root mean square deviation (RMSD) of two structures after LSQ fitting the second structure on the first one. The two structures do NOT need to have t

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Phil Evans
On 1 Mar 2007, at 10:46, James Whisstock wrote: Once you have integrated (run in ccp4 for MOSFLM), then you need to scale the data using, for example, SCALA. Have a look at the following tutorial for running scala. http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/courses/ECM2004/runningscala.pdf An updated versi

Re: [ccp4bb] software to calculate VDW interactions between small molecule and protein

2007-03-01 Thread James Whisstock
HI - try the program contact from the ccp4 suite. http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/contact.html J Eleanor Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > mathias wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Can anyone of you guys recommend free software, or any open access >> internet server, to calculate VDW interactions of smal

[ccp4bb] RMSD of pairs of atoms?

2007-03-01 Thread Jan Lowe
Risking a potentially trivial question: Is there a program that will calculate the RMS of distances between specified (listed) atoms in two different structures? As far as I could see, LSQMAN will only compute same with same? Calculate RMSD of M1 A20 A30 A40 A50 And M2 A20 A30 A4

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread James Whisstock
Dear Shivesh Below I've tried to give you some broad ideas about where to look / read and some packages / approaches to try. For a start there is a very comprehensive tutorial on the ccp4 site together with the experiemental phasing roadmaps. http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/examples/tutorial/html/h

Re: [ccp4bb] Swiss humour - no laughing matter? (Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data)

2007-03-01 Thread James Stroud
I have found in my usenet adventures that usenet mavens often point to this link before trying to sort out among themselves exactly what level of humor to take with dubious posts: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Of course usenet mavens also complain a little too m

Re: [ccp4bb] software to calculate VDW interactions between small molecule and protein

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
mathias wrote: Dear all, Can anyone of you guys recommend free software, or any open access internet server, to calculate VDW interactions of small molecules binding to protein. The only information I need is an output file which lists all amino acids of the target protein which make VDW int

Re: [ccp4bb] missing layer of electron density

2007-03-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Such a "twinning operator" can also indicate that you spacegroup has an extra symmetry operator (h,-h-k,-l) That is in fact one of the symmetry operators for P3i21 H32 P6i22 Have you solved the structure in the lower symmetry and is that missing density properly generated by this operator?

Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford Xcalibur Vs Rigaku micromax

2007-03-01 Thread Klaus Fütterer
Dear Sankar, One thing to consider is that the Oxford Xcalibur system has been on the market and in users hands for quite some time (even though this does not strictly apply to the NOVA source). I'm not sure how many of the MM002 Rigaku has sold, and the Bruker instrument is very recent. Apart f

Re: [ccp4bb] Swiss humour - no laughing matter? (Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data)

2007-03-01 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Goede dag Gerard, interesting that you think my last e-mail was addressed to you ;-)! Yes, this was my first moralizing posting on this board after some 16 years. A bit sense of humor is fine, but the last posting was simply too much. We shouldn't attack people personally or discriminate agains

[ccp4bb] Swiss humour - no laughing matter? (Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data)

2007-03-01 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
gruzi dirk, come on - lighten up a little! your reply wasn't funny or helpful either - just moralising. (by the way - 't is a strange fact that whenever i get any negative reactions to my own postings they stem *exclusively* from any or all of these three countries: the us, germany and switzer

Re: [ccp4bb] Filament lifetime on Rigaku Micromax007

2007-03-01 Thread Ingo P. Korndoerfer
hi ... there is very likely a correlation between quality of the vacuum and filament lifetime. it had been recommended to us to monitor the vacuum continuously on the rigaku ru300 (?) generators we had at the time. this was fairly easy by just plugging a left over plotter from an old chromatograp

[ccp4bb] [summary] grids and detergent

2007-03-01 Thread Andreas Forster
Dear all, two days ago I asked the ccp4 and 3DEM lists how one could prevent carbon films from being destroyed by detergent. At least that's what I meant to ask. Thanks for the many responses I got in no time (summarized below). Thanks to all who responded and apologies to those I don't mention

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear all, I wholeheartedly agree with Dirk. I was quite speechless yesterday when seeing one sarcastic reply after another being sent to this correspondent, who has probably been put off using this BB ever again. Its purpose is to help people who need to ask such questions, rather than to ser

[ccp4bb] strict NCS rotation/translation matrices

2007-03-01 Thread Vineet Gaur
Hi all we r trying to solve astructure with two molecules in the asu. we were initially refining using CNS by applying strict NCS. Now we want to shift to REFMAC. How can we apply the rotation translation matrices as determined using CNS, while refining with REFMAC. Additionaly how do we mentain t

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear ccp4bbers, I agree with Dirk. I have also noticed that much due to the way X-ray crystallography is evolving, a lot of students/early-postdocs find themselves "doing crystallography" in labs without a tradition in crystallography, even without "r

[ccp4bb] Very weird

2007-03-01 Thread Yanming Zhang
Dear all, I am sorry to trouble you again because I am facing a very weird situation: Three copies from Phaser are the right solutions based upon: 1, Rfree 42% R 39% 2, No packing clash 3, The packing within the 3 makes good sense 4, Density evenly distributed among the 3 copies even without N

Re: [ccp4bb] Cannot running NTA to purify the protein having His-tag?

2007-03-01 Thread Uitdehaag, J.C.M. (Joost)
Hi, We got some good experiences using the IBA streptag for baculo-expressed proteins. You'll have to redo the cloning, but it will be worth your while when you see the first purification step, cheers Joost -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [ccp4bb] process SeMet labelled data

2007-03-01 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Mark, although Shivesh's question was not very specific, and he should have clearly given some more informations about what he would like to know, he is probably a beginner in crystallography and simply asked for help on this board. Not everyone has always time or is always in the mood to