Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:47:08PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I can see two solutions: > > - Either we align more on POSIX to manage to get the st_dev (aka > fsid) of filesystems equal to the the st_rdev of their underlying /dev > entries. An easy way is to have storeios expose thei

Re: unionmount branches

Hello, On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 01:28:53AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 04:27:12PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 07:11:16AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > > > > I think so. However, it's probably better not to change the existing > > > m

Re: filter naming

Hello, On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 12:13:30AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 05:15:30PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > Also, IIRC, the filter is expected to be run via symbolic links and > > extract the name of the translator to be filtered out from its command > >

GNU/Hurd in german news

Hi, I thought this might interest you: - http://www.golem.de/0911/71074.html The interesting part: This sentence made it into the news: "Grub now has support for GNU/Hurd-based systems". Best wishes, Arne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

Carl Fredrik Hammar, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 09:27:14 +0100, a écrit : > > - An easy way is to have storeios expose their own pid as > > st_rdev, and have filesystems use the underlying storeio st_rdev for > > their st_dev (aka fsid). One issue is for the / ext2fs, since it > > doesn't use a stor

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Arne Babenhauserheide, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 10:23:10 +0100, a écrit : > "Grub now has support for GNU/Hurd-based systems". And it's plain bogus... Grub has had support for GNU/Hurd-base systems since a long time. I've just pushed a couple of fixes for grub2 (device numbering, module name dropped f

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Hello! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:23:10AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > "Grub now has support for GNU/Hurd-based systems". What Samuel said. Wasn't GRUB actually written (or extended from PUPA?) for booting GNU/Hurd systems? FYI: Our latest news snippet made it to OSNews:

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 11:44:07 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > Wasn't GRUB actually written (or extended from PUPA?) > for booting GNU/Hurd systems? If you have a reference to that, it would be a great comment to the article. The main reason why I think the news entry is interesting is that i

Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Carl Fredrik Hammar, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 09:27:14 +0100, a écrit : > > > - An easy way is to have storeios expose their own pid as > > > st_rdev, and have filesystems use the underlying storeio st_rdev for > > > their st_dev (aka

Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

Carl Fredrik Hammar, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 13:30:30 +0100, a écrit : > > That's not a problem since in that case the FS above it will have to be > > restarted too. Note that a storeio can't time out while an FS is still > > running. > > The FS can use file_get_storage_info and use the store directly,

Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:01:19PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I assumed that was the case for the ones that are interesting for grub. > > Yes, but then to realize unicity it's more difficult, as you have > several sources of IDs. You can of course use a prefix to identify where > it comes f

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Hello! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:16:19PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 11:44:07 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > Wasn't GRUB actually written (or extended from PUPA?) > > for booting GNU/Hurd systems? > > If you have a reference to that, it would be a great com

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 14:39:15 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > If you have a reference to that, it would be a great comment to the > > article. > It's in the manual, right in the section where you'd expect it to be: > ... should h

Re: blubber and grubber down

Hello! On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 11:45:39AM +0100, I wrote: > I think I'll reinstall them later today (preserving /home/, of course). Sergiu rightfully so reminded me that I had forgotten to do that. blubber is again up running, and grubber will be in some days -- realistically. ;-) (I did some ch

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:04:50PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 14:39:15 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > > If you have a reference to that, it would be a great comment to the > > > article. > > It's in the manual, right in the section where you'd expect it to

Re: blubber and grubber down

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:47:24PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > Hello! > > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 11:45:39AM +0100, I wrote: > > I think I'll reinstall them later today (preserving /home/, of course). > > Sergiu rightfully so reminded me that I had forgotten to do that. > blubber is again up

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Arne Babenhauserheide, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 17:04:50 +0100, a écrit : > Even if most potential Hurd developers mostly use the shell and know not to > measure a kernel by the desktop, these can be put off by a vocal "it can't > even > do X" crowd. Something like this? http://people.debian.org/~s

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 18:28:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Something like this? > > http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd.png Yepp, exactly :) Is that GnuStep? And can you maybe take it fullscreen? We can then put it on the status page. Best wishes, Arne PS: Damn - I'm forget

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Hello! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:59:35PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 18:28:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Something like this? > > > > http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd.png > > [...] > We can then put it on the status page. Yes. If it is a sp

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

Arne Babenhauserheide, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 19:59:35 +0100, a écrit : > Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 18:28:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Something like this? > > > > http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd.png > > Yepp, exactly :) > > Is that GnuStep? Nope, fvwm. > And can you maybe take

startx

Hello I suppose this is not a bug but I dont know how to continue. I would be thankful if someone knew what to do next. Should I be using xkd (/etc/default/hurd-console)? This is from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.6.5 Release Date: 2009-10-11 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Opera

Re: startx

Jakub Daniel, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 23:45:56 +0100, a écrit : > (--) CIRRUS(0): VideoRAM: 0 kByte Odd I guess you're running from qemu? You can force the videoram size by adding Option "VideoRam" 4096 in the Device section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Samuel

Re: startx

Problem is that xorg.conf is empty and i dont know what device i should create. I am running in QEMU. On 10/11/2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Jakub Daniel, le Tue 10 Nov 2009 23:45:56 +0100, a écrit : >> (--) CIRRUS(0): VideoRAM: 0 kByte > > Odd > > I guess you're running from qemu? > You can for

Re: Packaging Hurd translators for Debian

Hi, On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:36:16AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 07:56:30AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net > wrote: > > (Assuming the packages get installed by default.) > > Debian's Suggests or Recommends mechanism ought to be used for that. Suggests don't get pul

Re: GNU Hurd Installation

Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:25:16PM +0100, Jakub Daniel wrote: > I was wondering whether there was a way how to boot GNU/Hurd in qemu > without having boot floppy. While you can't install GRUB from Hurd directly, it should be perfectly possible to boot with the HD image and a GRUB rescue CD o

Re: dash, PATH

Hi, On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 03:09:27AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Jakub Daniel, le Wed 04 Nov 2009 18:42:13 +0100, a écrit : > > Unlike previous time I had to set /etc/fstab entirely by myself (all > > lines were commented out and the content didn't reflect the real > > partions). > > Odd,

Re: OT: automation

Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:20:01AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Freitag, 6. November 2009 09:22:14 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > The Right (TM) alternative is simply: > > > >find -print0|xargs -0 > > Does it manage spaces in filenames? Well, it passes the whole file

Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:47:08PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > - Either we align more on POSIX to manage to get the st_dev (aka fsid) > of filesystems equal to the the st_rdev of their underlying /dev > entries. An easy way is to have storeios expose their own pid as > st_rdev, and have

Re: dash, PATH

Hi, On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:22:41PM +0100, Jakub Daniel wrote: > Sorry , this was my fault, i forgot to run console ... Nah, the "Hurd" console is not mandatory. I don't use it either. -antrik-

Re: hurd-web/hurd/translator/unionmount.mdwn

Hi, On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:57:05AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 06:40:59AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net > wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 02:41:30PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > I may be understanding you wrong, but putting this in my browser's > > > addre

Re: startx

Jakub Daniel, le Wed 11 Nov 2009 00:12:00 +0100, a écrit : > Problem is that xorg.conf is empty and i dont know what device i should > create. > I am running in QEMU. Then put Section "Device" Driver "cirrus" Option "VideoRam" 4096 EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Samuel

Re: OT: automation

Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:39:52AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 14:24:55 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > > alt-F2 -> gg:google search -> enter -> konqueror starts the > > > search. > > > > It's stupid to have such a feature *within* some progra

Re: Mercurial vs. git

Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:47:26AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 13:56:09 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > My opinion is that there is no "one size fits all" here. > > My opinion is that there's quite a neat sweet spot between the two > extremes

Re: grub vs st_dev (aka fsid) / st_rdev

olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Wed 11 Nov 2009 00:23:17 +0100, a écrit : > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:47:08PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > - Either we align more on POSIX to manage to get the st_dev (aka fsid) > > of filesystems equal to the the st_rdev of their underlying /dev > > entries. A