Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-04-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Sorry for the late reply... On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:07:15AM +0530, Madhusudan C.S wrote: > I have submitted a totally reworked proposal through Google Web App. > [...] > The project thus aims at making the GNU/Linux process management tools > like ps, top, vmstat, sysctl, w, kill, skill,

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-30 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I totally agree that it would be desirable to have a library that help > > writing such *really* trivial translators. (libtrivtrivfs?... ;-) ) > > (Looking in a thesaurus.) How about, micr

Overlapping applications (was: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs)

2008-03-30 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:43:54PM +0200, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > > BTW, there is a problem: We have another very promising application > > for the procfs task. If we want to take both of you, one would have > > to switch to a different task. Would you be willing to work on > > something

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-30 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:29:10PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > "Madhusudan C.S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The project thus aims at making the GNU/Linux process management > > tools like ps, top, vmstat, sysctl, w, kill, skill, nice, snice, > > pgrep, free, tload, uptime, fuser,

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-30 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, > BTW, there is a problem: We have another very promising application for > the procfs task. If we want to take both of you, one would have to > switch to a different task. Would you be willing to work on something > else as well? I know it's unfortunate, as you have already put so much > work

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-30 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I totally agree that it would be desirable to have a library that help > writing such *really* trivial translators. (libtrivtrivfs?... ;-) ) (Looking in a thesaurus.) How about, micro, puny, trite, scanty...? Wait I think we have a winner libweefs. ;-) > I thi

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-30 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, > > I'm fully available this summer without any other commitments, will > > tune my day/night rhythm as per my mentor's requirement and assure a > > dedicated work of 50 hours/week. > > Wow, 50 hours a week is a lot. I didn't put nearly as much time into > my GSoC project, I think 2

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread Madhusudan C.S
Hi Carl, Thanks a lot in taking time to rgo through my proposal. I think you've done a really great job of writing this proposal! > There's not much to comment on really. :-) Thanks > The project thus aims at making the GNU/Linux process management > > tools like ps, top, vmstat, sysctl, w, ki

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread Madhusudan C.S
Hi Carl, > This is perhaps the root of the misunderstanding, we don't need to be > ahead of linux when it comes to procfs. procfs should only provide a > different interface to features /already/ present in the Hurd, i.e. a > compatibility layer. Your desire to propel the Hurd beyond linux is >

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:21:42AM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > It seems to me that many (most?) of the translators will be /very/ > simple. For uptime, cpuinfo, cmdline etc. their task boils down to > gather some info and produce a string using with asprintf(). > > This is much like

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 08:40:30AM +0530, Madhusudan C.S wrote: > I want to bring few points to your notice, though I had > understood the need for GNU/Linux compatibility of the procfs > that is to be implemented, I always felt that the GNU System > should be always ahead

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 07:50:41PM +0530, Madhusudan C.S wrote: > IpPI is nothing but a refinement of libnetfs or more clearly procfs > specific libnetfs, in your terms libprocfs. This is done for two > reasons, > > 1. To make the design robust, I dont want the effort who ever puts to > go

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, I think you've done a really great job of writing this proposal! There's not much to comment on really. :-) "Madhusudan C.S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The project thus aims at making the GNU/Linux process management > tools like ps, top, vmstat, sysctl, w, kill, skill, nice, snice, > pgr

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread Madhusudan C.S
Hi Olaf, Carl and all, I have submitted a totally reworked proposal through Google Web App. This proposal reflects all the suggestions you have made previously. I written my proposal so that it falls in line with the Hurd's requirements at the moment as you people have told me. The same p

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-29 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, > I want to bring few points to your notice, though I had understood > the need for GNU/Linux compatibility of the procfs that is to be > implemented, I always felt that the GNU System should be always ahead of > the GNU/Linux or anyother systems, either in terms of design, or > performance

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-28 Thread Madhusudan C.S
Hi Olaf, Fredrick and all, Thanks a lot for all the suggestions and comments. I am sorry for all the misconceptions. I am reworking on the entire proposal so that meets the requirements of "the Hurd" community. I want to bring few points to your notice, though I had understood the n

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-28 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't quite see the need for a special library here -- what would it > provide over plain libtrivfs?... It seems to me that many (most?) of the translators will be /very/ simple. For uptime, cpuinfo, cmdline etc. their task boils down to gather some info and produ

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-27 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:07:53PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > I was the student in GSoC last year, just thought I'd share my > acquired wisdom and drop some comments on your proposal. :-) Thanks for that :-) > Also, procfs is mainly used to provide compatibility with linux. So, >

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-27 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:21:08PM +0530, Madhusudan C.S wrote: > I have come up with this draft proposal so that we can discuss > further based on the this proposal. It looks very promising already :-) > Please review it and suggest any kind of mistakes including spelling > and grammat

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-27 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, > Hi Carl, > Thanks a lot in spending your invaluable time in going through my > proposal. No problem. Also, I go by Fredrik not Carl, a misconception that is easy to make since I don't abbreviate it. :-) > [snip] > > I suspect you will need to narrow down your feature list a bit. Not >

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-27 Thread Madhusudan C.S
Hi Carl, Thanks a lot in spending your invaluable time in going through my proposal. Gave it a quick read-through and it looks pretty good to me. I'm not > that familiar with procfs though, I've mostly just used it to set some > networking settings and checking my notebooks battery level. So

Re: Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-26 Thread Carl Fredrik Hammar
Hi, I was the student in GSoC last year, just thought I'd share my acquired wisdom and drop some comments on your proposal. :-) > [snip] > > I have come up with this draft proposal so that we can discuss further > based on the this proposal. I have roughly consolidated my ideas from the > abov

Requesting for review of the Draft proposal for - procfs

2008-03-26 Thread Madhusudan C.S
Hi Olaf and all, I am a prospective GSoC 2008 student. Few you here might be knowing about me through my previous mails. After some work on procfs pseudo-filesystem in general which included going through the GNU/Linux's procfs documentation, going through the existing procfs code in hurdextras