On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:19 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 19:07:29 +0200, a écrit :
> > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 17:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit :
> > > > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. T
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 19:07:29 +0200, a écrit :
> On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 17:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit :
> > > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. Thanks for the links anyway :-)
> > >
> > > Any interest in me wri
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 17:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit :
> > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. Thanks for the links anyway :-)
> >
> > Any interest in me writing down some overview stuff, as I understand it?
> > Of course it sho
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit :
> Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. Thanks for the links anyway :-)
>
> Any interest in me writing down some overview stuff, as I understand it?
> Of course it should be iterated on, several times.
Well, please check what would be
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 14:29 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:13:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > More links, thank you.
>
> ?!
>
> > I was hoping the hurd pages would be enough, but obviously they are
> > not.
>
> Of course: we expect not to have to explain what an "o
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:13:13 +0200, a écrit :
> More links, thank you.
?!
> I was hoping the hurd pages would be enough, but obviously they are
> not.
Of course: we expect not to have to explain what an "operating system"
is to developers. They're supposed to find such pages by t
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 12:48:14 +0200, a écrit :
> As I replied to Samuel, I'm not too fond of browsing web pages to find
> information scattered in many places, not as an introduction to Hurd.
> Where is the complete (tutorial) pdf to download and print out?
A tutorial for what?
That
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 13:47 +0200, Richard Braun wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:48:14PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > > > You've spent more than a year working on this system, and you
> > > > > still don't get the big picture of it,
> >
> > Maybe because the _reference_ manuals don't g
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:48:14PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/09/msg00021.html
>
> Not Hurd related, read the follow-up mails.
>
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2011/04/msg00040.html
>
> What's wrong with that posting? I am more patient by
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 11:42 +0200, Richard Braun wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 09:26:18PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > What lack of respect? Lack of respect for what. Your sometimes not very
> > nice language? At least I don't call you names, as you do. And Samuel
> > does try nicely to answ
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 09:26:18PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> What lack of respect? Lack of respect for what. Your sometimes not very
> nice language? At least I don't call you names, as you do. And Samuel
> does try nicely to answer my questions, but you only provoke.
I don't know. Let's ask
Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 21:26:18 +0200, a écrit :
> I even offered to write down things in a (for me and many other
> people) clearer way, but that does not seem to be of interest.
What makes you believe that?
Samuel
Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 21:33:43 +0200, a écrit :
> On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 18:16 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 17:53:19 +0200, a écrit :
> > > What are the powerful features compared to a monolithic kernel.
> >
> > Using your (as a user) own pflocal
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 18:16 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 17:53:19 +0200, a écrit :
> >
> > What are the powerful features compared to a monolithic kernel.
>
> Using your (as a user) own pflocal instead of the system-provided one,
> using gdb/valgrind on it,
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 20:51 +0200, Richard Braun wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 06:16:46PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> OK, I wanted to keep all this on IRC to avoid creating public archives
> humiliating you, but you don't give us much choice, and there is in fact
> already many archived occ
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 06:16:46PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Implementing the whole function setsockopt in eglibc would simplify a
> > lot.
>
> But it can not work: it's pflocal which has to change the option for the
> socket, since that's where the AF_UNIX sockets are actually IMPLEMENTED
Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 17:53:19 +0200, a écrit :
> > What is puzzling exactly? That said, you don't need to understand that
> > part.
>
> I want to know what's happening (not necessarilty understand every
> detail).
Then I can only say that I don't even actually know. And that's just
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 13:04 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 11:10:36 +0200, a écrit :
> > Q1: Where to find that the second code is used when building eglibc:
> > Is it the presence of the second that makes this defining that
> > function?
>
> Yes. The easiest w
Svante Signell, le Sun 16 Sep 2012 11:10:36 +0200, a écrit :
> Q1: Where to find that the second code is uesed when building eglibc:
> Is the the presence of the second that makes this defining that
> function?
Yes. The easiest way to know that is to just grep through the build
logs. The precise
Hi,
As a follow up on the latest IRC discussion, and after reading the
recent rpc.mdwn, I still have some questions.
Let's take a look at the function setsocketopt.
Start with glibc: locate setsockopt.c results in two hits.
eglibc-2.13/socket/setsockopt.c
eglibc-2.13/sysdeps/mach/hurd/setsockopt
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