Re: [PATCH 8/8] startup: bind the startup server to /servers/startup

2015-01-30 Thread David Michael
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Justus Winter, le Fri 16 Jan 2015 11:15:37 +0100, a écrit : >> Quoting David Michael (2014-09-18 23:14:17) >> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Justus Winter >> > <4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote: >> > > Bind the startup server to

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > > Well, the overall question is: Is it worth an effort ? > I guess it could. Then we wouldn't need to make /dev a tmpfs and > create it's content on demand. Then again, doing so is easy enough > (with the bootshell). So this discussion was mainly for my curiosity. If the need arises to im

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (2015-01-30 14:25:50) > Hi, > > Justus Winter wrote: > > 3. Remaster using `grub-mkrescue --output=my-bootshell.iso /=master'. > > The beauty of grub-mkrescue. Yes, it's super nice :) > > To start an translator on demand, the file system needs to support > > storing a pass

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: > 3. Remaster using `grub-mkrescue --output=my-bootshell.iso /=master'. The beauty of grub-mkrescue. More people should use it and increase its weight in GRUB2. Even in the simple BIOS case, it already hides these expert options of xorriso: --grub2-mbr ...disk.path..

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 13:02 +0100, Justus Winter wrote: > Quoting Thomas Schmitt (2015-01-30 12:04:57) > > Would that support be desirable and what properties would > > an ISO 9660 filesystem have to provide ? > > To start an translator on demand, the file system needs to support > storing a pass

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (2015-01-30 12:04:57) > > http://darnassus.sceen.net/~teythoon/bootshell0129.iso.xz > > Was it produced by grub-mkrescue ? Yes. It is very easy to remaster: 1. Unpack bootshellXX.iso into a dir, e.g. `master'. Use /hurd/iso9660fs on Hurd, or fuseiso, or file-roller on Li

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > http://darnassus.sceen.net/~teythoon/bootshell0129.iso.xz Was it produced by grub-mkrescue ? > * Boots an unmodified Debian (debootstrap --variant=minbase) from a > readonly filesystem that does not support passive translators > (iso9660fs). Would that support be desirable and what pr

Re: FOSDEM talk?

2015-01-30 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-01-30 02:02:33) > Hello, > > About the Hurd news in my slides, in recent work, I have listed: > > - Init system decoupled > - Allows to use standard Debian sysvinit scripts! > - Using dmd for Guix & such > - Distributed mtab translator > - Various optimizations >

Re: Reinventing the Hurd server bootstrap

2015-01-30 Thread Justus Winter
Hello :) I produced a demo live cd using my new bootshell: http://darnassus.sceen.net/~teythoon/booting-debian-preboot.png http://darnassus.sceen.net/~teythoon/booting-debian-boot.png http://darnassus.sceen.net/~teythoon/bootshell0129.iso.xz Notable features: * Boots an unmodified Debian (deboo