Re: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

2008-11-19 Thread Marek Dopiera
Monday 17 of November 2008 14:34:23 Sergiu Ivanov napisaƂ(a): > Well, I wonder whether porting Hurd to NetBSD kernel would take less > effort than it should have taken to port it to L4 or Coyotos. Still, > both attempts failed, and I am strongly inclined to think that it is > just infeasible (or ne

Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - lightweight virtualisation

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:57:36PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Samstag 08 November 2008 17:34:08 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > A virtual appliance is similar, only that the operating > > system+software is preinstalled in an image, and comes along with a > > virtualization solut

Re: A niche for the Hurd

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:35:21PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 12 November 2008 05:14:02 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > This is actually not far off: In fact distributed systems were a (or > > even *the*?) major research focus of Mach -- Mach provides > > network-transpa

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:13:22PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag 13 November 2008 21:13:52 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > > The shell would simply assign limited permissions to any process at > > startup, and should it want more it would have to ask me through the > > shell.

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:11:32AM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > 2008/10/29 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Perhaps the biggest difference is that on Linux, even with FUSE, > > users are limited to a fixed set of trusted filesystems provided by > > root. On the Hurd, a user can mount *any* filesy

Re: A niche for the Hurd

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:12:28PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > Since the brainstorming non-critique period is over I would like to > point out where the Hurd failed to fulfill some expectations for me. This doesn't at all fit the topic of this thread, which was about finding niches for t

Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:50:42PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > But as soon as it's no longer in the CWD, wouldn't it be better to > leave out the colon and use `/ftp'? What Samuel said. > Some sort of killer feature for demonstrating it (even though not > really visible) was if apt-get

Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:33:52PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch 12 November 2008 04:48:07 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Anyways, just claiming that it can be done, doesn't help us. If we > > had a bunch of applications actually following these ideas, so > > people can se

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:59:19PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag 13 November 2008 23:17:29 schrieb Michal Suchanek: > > However, this requires fundamental redesign of the current Hurd. [...] > While I think that this sounds interesting, it doesn't seem like a > viable wa

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > And wouldn't this option of accessing a file in two ways be an ideal > candidate > for namespace based translator selection? > > An example: > > $ ls blah,,dir/ > $ nano blah,,xml Certainly :-) I wonder though wh

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:17:29PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > I am not familiar with the Hurd internals either. However, as I > understand the current design it uses the UNIX security model with > users and groups down to the very basic services. This is partially true: The Hurd primari

Re: What shall the filter do to bottommost translators

2008-11-19 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:01 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:57:37PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > > > When nsmux is asked to do a magic lookup, it creates a new mirror node > > and sets the requested translator(s) on it. > > Well, let's be exact: It creates an

Re: About merging the Hurd homepage and the Hurd wiki

2008-11-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:45:56PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote: > OK, http://www.bddebian.com:/ should work. (Unfortunately I > couldn't use 8080 either). Should, but unfortunately doesn't. You're having it forwarded to 192.168.10.62:, right? > I can't find anything about 2260