Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello again! On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 01:21:52AM +0200, I wrote: > If you are building GNU Mach kernels from gnumach-1-branch, this means > that you a) can now get a usable GNU Mach kernel configuring it just like > `./configure' I should add that this will select those device drivers by default t

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:37:50PM +0200, I wrote: > What are people's feelings about having all (working) device drivers > enabled by default when configuring GNU Mach? I just committed the following to gnumach-1-branch: #v+ 2006-09-20 Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Dri

[bug #17808] NULL timeval does not return current date/time in futimes.c

2006-09-19 Thread Barry deFreese
URL: Summary: NULL timeval does not return current date/time in futimes.c Project: The GNU Hurd Submitted by: bddebian Submitted on: Tuesday 09/19/2006 at 18:07 Category: glibc

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The only situations where this is _not_ what I'd expect from a kernel's > build system by default is when a) hunting bugs or b) building a large > number of kernels when testing specific issues (and you then only want to > compile the actually needed d

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 09:43:55AM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote: > How about we move all the drive into userspace? ;-) Send patches. Michael ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Barry deFreese
How about we move all the drive into userspace? ;-) Barry ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Richard Braun
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 03:28:38PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > Michael, Richard, Samuel: thanks for the quick input. I can understand > your concerns and would like to propose adding the following to the > configure options: > > #v+ > --disable-default-device-drivers >

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:37:50PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > What are people's feelings about having all (working) device drivers > enabled by default when configuring GNU Mach? Michael, Richard, Samuel: thanks for the quick input. I can understand your concerns and would like to pr

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thomas Schwinge, le Tue 19 Sep 2006 14:37:50 +0200, a écrit : > What are people's feelings about having all (working) device drivers > enabled by default when configuring GNU Mach? That would avoid debian's --enable-this --enable-that ... configuration line :) That said, if I want to only enable

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:37:50PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > What are people's feelings about having all (working) device drivers > enabled by default when configuring GNU Mach? What would happen if a user configures with --enable-ide? Would that mean it only enables ide, or would it be a n

Re: GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Richard Braun
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:37:50PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > What are people's feelings about having all (working) device drivers > enabled by default when configuring GNU Mach? I don't like this idea at all :-/. When people build their own kernel, they usually know what they need. Building

GNU Mach: enabling all (working) device drivers by default?

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! What are people's feelings about having all (working) device drivers enabled by default when configuring GNU Mach? The only situations where this is _not_ what I'd expect from a kernel's build system by default is when a) hunting bugs or b) building a large number of kernels when testing s

Re: Locating mis-compilations (was: [bug #17338] GNU Mach vs. GCC 4.1)

2006-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Thomas Schwinge, le Tue 19 Sep 2006 12:47:35 +0200, a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 06:27:11AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > GCC gets smarter and smarter... When seeing this: > > > > [...] > > As there seems to be general interest: can you explain what techniques > and tools you use

Re: Announcing the slow burial of the Hurd Wiki

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! Sorry, still no real news, but... On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:04:34AM +0200, Marc Dequ??nes wrote: > Marc Dequ??nes (Duck) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Thomas, anything decided yet ? Do you need an hosting place ? If so, > > DuckCorp could help in this area. I will get back to that i

Locating mis-compilations (was: [bug #17338] GNU Mach vs. GCC 4.1)

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 06:27:11AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > GCC gets smarter and smarter... When seeing this: > > [...] As there seems to be general interest: can you explain what techniques and tools you used to locate that problem? elfutils's elfcmp? objdump with shell script

ChangeLog entries (was: [patch] ISA-support in GNU Mach PCMCIA core)

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello! On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:58:25AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:37:05PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > * i386/linux/configure: Regenerate. > > * i386/linux/device-drivers.h.in: Likewise. > > > > * i386/linux/configure.ac (AC_PCMCIA_OPTION): New fu