Re: Distro name

2013-01-17 Thread Ludovic Courtès
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis: > So I’ll rename the (distro ...) modules to (gnu ...), because that’s > nicer and more meaningful (“a distro of the GNU system”). Done! Ludo’.

Re: Distro name

2013-01-17 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > Plus we’re just talking about a module name space, and using ‘gnu’ at > the beginning is just a way to claim ownership of that name space, not > of the packages that happen to be provided by those modules. Okay, fair enough. Andreas

Re: Distro name

2013-01-16 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Andreas Enge skribis: > Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: >> So I’ll rename the (distro ...) modules to (gnu ...), because that’s >> nicer and more meaningful (“a distro of the GNU system”). > > Even though it contains non-gnu packages? Well, the famous “GNU System” was alway

Re: Distro name

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > So I’ll rename the (distro ...) modules to (gnu ...), because that’s > nicer and more meaningful (“a distro of the GNU system”). Even though it contains non-gnu packages? For now, distro seems clearer to me. Andreas

Re: Distro name

2013-01-15 Thread Ludovic Courtès
openssl), which does not mean that OpenSSL is a GNU > package, but I think that should be clear in this context. Anyway, > that’s the option that I like the most currently. It seems we went on discussing a distro name, but that turned out not to solve the module name space issue. :-) So I’

Re: Distro name

2013-01-03 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > No, because eventually there’ll be (distro system ...) too–the > equivalent of what NixOS is to Nixpkgs, if you see what i mean. Okay, I see. Andreas

Re: Distro name

2013-01-03 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi! Andreas Enge skribis: > Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: >> You mean (guix packages ...) or (packages ...)? The latter seems like a >> bad idea, because it could collide with something else, and it’s not >> sufficiently descriptive (it could be confused with Guile’s guil

Re: Distro name

2013-01-03 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > You mean (guix packages ...) or (packages ...)? The latter seems like a > bad idea, because it could collide with something else, and it’s not > sufficiently descriptive (it could be confused with Guile’s guildhall > packaging system, for inst

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Nikita Karetnikov
> It may be clear, but your example demonstrates internal inconsistency of > such naming. Is Guix intended for GNU software only? If not, then be > fair to all the others. ;) Good point. Nikita pgpHyY3MsXztr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Nikita Karetnikov
Hello, Why do we need a separate name for the distro? I'm pretty happy with the current situation. Nikita pgpweSkv0Z38j.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
"Jason Self" skribis: > Hmm. It might make sense to differentiate when a third party is > involved, but not when the GNU Project itself is doing it. [...] > I guess it depends on what you define an "an official complete GNU > system release" to be. That would ultimately have to come from RMS

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Jason Self
Dmitri Paduchikh wrote .. > For 30 years "GNU" has acquired much broader meaning than just a > distro. > You will have to differentiate distro name from this broader meaning > constantly qualifying that it is Guix distro which you are talking > about. And it will be h

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Dmitri Paduchikh
One more choice is "gemmate" or "germ". Seems to be appropriate for collection of packages. -- With best regards Dmitri Paduchikh

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Jason Self
Ludovic Courtès said: > The problem is that “GNU” is (supposedly) synonym for GNU/Hurd, or > at least for the operating system. > I think it makes sense to distinguish the OS from the distro, no? Hmm. It might make sense to differentiate when a third party is involved, but not when the GNU Proje

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi! Andreas Enge skribis: > Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: [...] >> However, I’ve come to think that we don’t necessarily need a separate >> name for the distro, but we do need a name for the module name space. > > Do we need a namespace "distro"? So far, there is only th

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Enge
Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2013 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > And merry new year! :-) Thanks, happy new year to all the guix hackers! > The (distro ...) name for modules of the distro wasn’t meant to last. > Initially, I thought we could find a name for the distro, and substitute >

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Dmitri Paduchikh
Jason Self wrote: > Why not call the distro "GNU"? :) After almost 30 years it's about > time. For 30 years "GNU" has acquired much broader meaning than just a distro. You will have to differentiate distro name from this broader meaning constantly qualifying that

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Dmitri Paduchikh skribis: > Ludovic Courtès wrote: > >> The (distro ...) name for modules of the distro wasn’t meant to last. >> Initially, I thought we could find a name for the distro, and substitute >> that name to “distro”. Possible names: > >> • Jinn,

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Jason, "Jason Self" skribis: > Why not call the distro "GNU"? :) After almost 30 years it's about > time. The problem is that “GNU” is (supposedly) synonym for GNU/Hurd, or at least for the operating system. I think it makes sense to distinguish the OS from the distro, no? Thanks, Ludo’.

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Dmitri Paduchikh
Ludovic Courtès wrote: > The (distro ...) name for modules of the distro wasn’t meant to last. > Initially, I thought we could find a name for the distro, and substitute > that name to “distro”. Possible names: > • Jinn, as in “Jinn is not Nixpkgs/NixOS”; > • Guixotic, a

Re: Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Jason Self
Why not call the distro "GNU"? :) After almost 30 years it's about time.

Distro name

2013-01-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! And merry new year! :-) The (distro ...) name for modules of the distro wasn’t meant to last. Initially, I thought we could find a name for the distro, and substitute that name to “distro”. Possible names: • Jinn, as in “Jinn is not Nixpkgs/NixOS”; • Guixotic, as Guix + Exotic