On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Reuben Thomas wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Bruno Haible wrote:
>
>> That's the common convention for when you receive a package in the form of
>> a
>> tarball. For CVS or git checkouts, there is no such conventions.
>
> Well, most packages that have INSTALL have it
Hi Ralf,
Thanks for pursuing this.
> > For the {dvi,ps} formats this is (arguably) a bug in automake,
>
> I agree; automake should remove {html,dvi,ps,pdf} only upon 'clean', but
> not upon 'mostlyclean'. Only the latex by-products should be removed
> upon 'mostlyclean'.
OK, this is issue #1.
[ adding bug-automake ]
Hello Bruno,
* Bruno Haible wrote on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 01:03:31PM CEST:
> 'mostlyclean' cleans all files that are created by "make", except those
> that people normally want to keep. It's the target people are meant to
> invoke when they see "There's too much clutter in
Hi Jim,
> Do you mind if I factor that?
>
> html info:
> cd doc && $(MAKE) $@
>
> dvi pdf:
> cd doc && $(MAKE) $@ && $(MAKE) mostlyclean
No problem with this.
> or even (with or without the mostlyclean):
>
> dvi html info pdf:
> cd doc && $(MAKE
Bruno Haible wrote:
> Reuben Thomas wrote:
>> It didn't occur to me to read the manual, as I hadn't figured out
>> how to build it. I looked in Makefile, but that didn't seem to do much.
>
> This can be improved:
>
> 2009-04-01 Bruno Haible
>
> * Makefile (info, html, dvi, pdf): New targe
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Bruno Haible wrote:
Reuben Thomas wrote:
It didn't occur to me to read the manual, as I hadn't figured out
how to build it. I looked in Makefile, but that didn't seem to do much.
This can be improved:
[add doc-building targets to Makefile]
That looks helpful; thanks.
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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> What is it that made you expect to see "installation instructions"?
Most GNU packages have an INSTALL file. That's where I look first for
installation instructions.
gnulib is not something you install. Ever.
I guess we mean different thing
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> It didn't occur to me to read the manual, as I hadn't figured out
> how to build it. I looked in Makefile, but that didn't seem to do much.
This can be improved:
2009-04-01 Bruno Haible
* Makefile (info, html, dvi, pdf): New targets.
Reported by Reuben
> What is it that made you expect to see "installation instructions"?
Most GNU packages have an INSTALL file. That's where I look first for
installation instructions.
gnulib is not something you install. Ever.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Bruno Haible wrote:
That's the common convention for when you receive a package in the form of a
tarball. For CVS or git checkouts, there is no such conventions.
Well, most packages that have INSTALL have it also in the VCS. And gnulib
doesn't seem to have any of the optio
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> Most GNU packages have an INSTALL file. That's where I look first for
> installation instructions.
That's the common convention for when you receive a package in the form of a
tarball. For CVS or git checkouts, there is no such conventions. Some
packages have a README-alpha
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Bruno Haible wrote:
Reuben Thomas wrote:
because gnulib-tool is on PATH. That's all I want really, I want
gnulib-tool to be on my PATH and I was asking what I have to do to
make that work.
Ah, that was the real question behind the question!
Not really: that's
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> because gnulib-tool is on PATH. That's all I want really, I want
> gnulib-tool to be on my PATH and I was asking what I have to do to
> make that work.
Ah, that was the real question behind the question!
Karl Berry wrote:
> ln -s /gnulib/checkout/gnulib-tool ~/b
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Bruno Haible wrote:
What is it that made you expect to see "installation instructions"?
Most GNU packages have an INSTALL file. That's where I look first for
installation instructions.
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Reuben Thomas wrote:
> It would be nice to have a top-level INSTALL file that gives this
> information.
Are the two main sources of information, the public web page and the manual,
not enough? The web page [1] says:
"To use Gnulib, you can retrieve its source code ..."
and the manual [2], secti
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Karl Berry wrote:
I think the point is that you can install the gnulib Debian package
without an internet connection
That may be, but it doesn't make distributing a snapshot of gnulib as a
"package" any less problematic. It is still the wrong thing to do.
I don't se
I think the point is that you can install the gnulib Debian package
without an internet connection
That may be, but it doesn't make distributing a snapshot of gnulib as a
"package" any less problematic. It is still the wrong thing to do.
Oh well. I know this isn't up to you, and I certai
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> Any problem with adding gnulib to your path?
I prefer to add executable-only directories.
That makes little sense, if you wish to be able to access a directory,
then it must be executable.
Sorry, I was unclear. I meant directories containing
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
You do not need a internet connection to compile a project that uses
gnulib, the project will include whatever parts of gnulib it uses.
I think the point is that you can install the gnulib Debian package without
an internet connection, just like any
> Any problem with adding gnulib to your path?
I prefer to add executable-only directories.
That makes little sense, if you wish to be able to access a directory,
then it must be executable.
>Well, Debian packages snapshots of it. It's useful,
>
> No, it is insanely wrong, defeating the purpose of gnulib and
> causing impossible-to-track bugs due to out-of-sync sources. But
> let's not go into that again, you can find the discussions in the
> archives if you care
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 15:32:36 Reuben Thomas wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > the `git clone` is the install. just execute the gnulib-tool script from
> > there.
>
> Right. So I just add the directory to my PATH? Or symlink gnulib-tool into
> a directory on my PATH?
eit
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
Any problem with adding gnulib to your path?
I prefer to add executable-only directories.
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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Karl Berry wrote:
Well, Debian packages snapshots of it. It's useful,
No, it is insanely wrong, defeating the purpose of gnulib and causing
impossible-to-track bugs due to out-of-sync sources. But let's not go
into that again, you can find the discussions in the archives
> On Wednesday 01 of April 2009 21:32:36 Reuben Thomas wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> the `git clone` is the install. just execute the gnulib-tool script from
>>> there.
>>
>> Right. So I just add the directory to my PATH? Or symlink gnulib-tool into
>
Well, Debian packages snapshots of it. It's useful,
No, it is insanely wrong, defeating the purpose of gnulib and causing
impossible-to-track bugs due to out-of-sync sources. But let's not go
into that again, you can find the discussions in the archives if you care.
because gnulib-tool i
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Kamil Dudka wrote:
On Wednesday 01 of April 2009 21:32:36 Reuben Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote:
the `git clone` is the install. just execute the gnulib-tool script from
there.
Right. So I just add the directory to my PATH? Or symlink gnulib-tool
On Wednesday 01 of April 2009 21:32:36 Reuben Thomas wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > the `git clone` is the install. just execute the gnulib-tool script from
> > there.
>
> Right. So I just add the directory to my PATH? Or symlink gnulib-tool into
> a directory on my PATH?
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote:
the `git clone` is the install. just execute the gnulib-tool script from
there.
Right. So I just add the directory to my PATH? Or symlink gnulib-tool into a
directory on my PATH?
It would be nice to have a top-level INSTALL file that gives this
in
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 11:17:25 Reuben Thomas wrote:
> I just decided to stop using Debian packages, which I have to download from
> sid in order to keep up to date in any case, and just do the obvious thing
> and get gnulib from git, which I can update whenever I like.
>
> However, I can't see
I just decided to stop using Debian packages, which I have to download from
sid in order to keep up to date in any case, and just do the obvious thing
and get gnulib from git, which I can update whenever I like.
However, I can't see any installation instructions. Am I missing something?
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