Simon,
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> I was hoping more for a link to the community discussions.
Maybe monitor this below?
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uld undoubtedly feel better if it was self-hosted by TDF.
I've long said that there are natural synergies between the
LibreOffice project and the Alfresco project, and I really think it
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The Alfresco Share platform at http://alfresco.libreoffice.org has
long been fully completed.
The CMIS browser at http://media.libreoffice.org is perfectly
functional, but is still a work in progress (let's say it's 80%
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> Just out of interest, David, is this a consensus request from the
> Documentation community?
The docs team leader Jean Weber would prefer to see the Alfresco
platform on a TDF server, if that's what you mean.
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back to the subject of design docs on the discuss list, with ideas and
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Again, thanks for the time, and have a good conference. :-) I so much
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> For sure, there's detailed
> information about planned release dates going far into the future [1].
[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
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I'll be coming up with a concrete plan, and this will certainly take
account of your kind suggestions above.
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> On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 12:22 +0300, David Nelson wrote:
>> Your arguments resound with the sideways logic and suave patter of a
>> dishonest used car salesman combined with the moral values of a
>>
sing my right to intellectually disagree with you. :-)
I regret that I won't be at the conference, or I would definitely buy
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I'm disappointed, Charles. Quite disappointed...
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essness and unnecessary declarations that go against the
freedom of expression that the bylaws stand for.
It would have been so much simpler if the candidates had been allowed
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refully and accurately.
Cor, it would be good if you did not jump to conclusions.
Norbert and Cor, it would be polite and in keeping with the bylaws and
election rules if you allowed me to put my questions to the candidates
without butting in.
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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_design_document
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leading devs, you could read this Wikipedia page:
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to three of our leading devs, and I will wait for
them to reply to the original posts.
Sorry, Norbert, but your responses do not change my views in any way.
Your arguments resound with the sideways logic and suave patter of a
dishonest used car salesman combined with the moral values of a
larcen
elieve there will be a pay-off in quite a few ways.
In any case, I'll be at the next couple of SC/BoD meetings to follow
up and discuss the idea.
Bonne journée, les amis. :-)
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r proposal, the best proof is that you did
> not ask such commitment from Italo.
Sincerely, I feel that, as a TDF member, I have every right - duty
even - to inform myself about the policies and attitudes of the
candidates, and to see what their responses are to my specific
request
is the 14th, and the geographical distances between us would
not allow me to make it there on time... :-(
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should indeed have an influence on the outcome of the election, no?
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I'm hoping to see from three of our leading devs who are candidates
for the BoD how committed they are to *Open Source* software. ;-)
Open the doors wider, and more people might come in.
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by Caolan McNamara, Thorsten Behrens and Michael Meeks.
Please may I ask your thoughts about this idea and whether you would
explicitly agree to be part of it?
In any case, wishing you all the best and, again, thanking you for
your past work for us. :-)
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Please may I ask your thoughts about this idea and whether you would
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Hi,
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> Ten people: seven board members, plus three deputies
But we're only voting for the board members, right? The board members
choose the deputies, no?
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How many members are we actually voting for? The bylaws say 9, but I
seem to remember that the Germany-based foundation would only have 7
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her areas of the project. Just waiting for people to
volunteer does not seem to be enough to cater to our needs for
contributors.
Marketing guys, can you give this consideration?
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Then people should definitely refrain from jumping-in on those threads.
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on GNU/Linux, but may also be taken on any other
operating system.
The Steering Committee recommends a consistent visual appearance (e.g.
theming and branding) for the screenshots taken on the selected
operating system. It is up to the LibreOffice community how to achieve
that consistency.&quo
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OK, thanks for the answers. And don't forget to eat lots of fruit and
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consider and respond, because I know you have a lot on your plate.
Once again, you definitely should not read all the above posts as any
kind of criticism of you personally. You should probably be aware by
now that I hold your work for the project in very high regard.
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They might be managing key
infrastructure but it's not a reason for working differently - in fact
quite the opposite, they should be especially attentive to working
openly.... it's not a good tendence, IMO.
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ver heard about this... Was it
publicized at all on the website mailing list and I missed it?
In any case, if you do another one, could you maybe give me a
heads-up? It would have been interesting to meet other people
administering infrastructure for TDF.
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puting platform,
notably Linux, but also Windows, Macintosh and other operating systems
and graphical user interfaces."
This would be unambiguous and unequivocal...
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I'm perplexed. ;-)
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Hi,
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:11 PM, David Nelson wrote:
> Am I right that the SC call did not start yet? Or did the conference
> room number change (53 71 38)?
Sorry, I got the wrong time... it's in 50 mins.
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So the subject of acceptability of screenshots of LibreOffice products
taken on Windows is on today's SC confcall agenda, and I'll be there
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In any case, I'll add it to the next agenda and thank you for your
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27;ll add it to the next agenda and would be there to listen, and
to present both sides of the issue, if invited. But if it's going to
be a private session then maybe non-SC members won't be party to the
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Well how about "meritocratic community created by" then?
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ere to be composed of more than 4
members... I feel that at least 6 to 9 members would ensure better
processing of MC business, and would ensure better quality
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on this issue in a private session.
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ith "meritocratic organization created by". Maybe that
would solve the problem? (Did you notice the removed comma, which was
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or another, once and for all, by asking the SC to adopt a position.
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Hi Florian,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 18:45, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> Each organization *appoints* a single representative to the Advisory Board
> based on a yearly fee to be determined by the BoD.
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>
> Thanks for these, really makes it cleaner, I applied them all - they
> seem un-controversial etc.
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It's true that this could be a good way to "take the temperature" in
the community about issues being voted on... Maybe our LibreOffice SC
could think about this before the bylaws are fully stabilized?
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 22:22, David Nelson wrote:
> Otherwise, I was only going to add a clause about transferring TDF's
> funds into my personal bank account every 6 months...
For those of you that didn't realise, that was a joke... Someone just
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fore starting work and
after finishing work. :-)
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Hi,
When you've made your edits, can I have permission to proofread and
make minor grammar/spelling corrections?
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I remember that, some time ago, Michael Meeks suggested OpenSTV as a
tool (http://www.openstv.org/).
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Hi, :-)
The recording of the SC meeting of 2011-05-12 placed on the wiki is
incomplete. Please, would it be possible to have the recording of the
entire meeting posted?
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ho started
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ear but it seems that the
lessons have not been learned.
MC, SC, could we perhaps hear your thoughts about this?
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 21:09, Nino Novak wrote:
> David,
>
> please bear with me as I am not an native English speaker, so therefore
> I might pick the wrong ex
Hi, :-)
I took the liberty of proofreading the post a bit and editing
slightly. See below, plus attached ODT file. HTH.
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TDF has new members
The opening of the membership process was announced last Tuesday
(http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/04/19/the-document-foundation-is
Hi, :-)
I had another read through the bylaws, and there is one section that
might be usefully updated: Continuity of Membership.
The clause granting merit for past OOo contributions and qualifying
former OOo people is surely past now? Does that clause still have
utility?
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doing
> that ? At present, I have no access as author to the TDF website, and
> don't see any real need to have one. Couldn't I just send someone the
> translation ?
If you like, you can send it to me and I'll post it Monday or Tuesday.
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Hi, :-)
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 20:45, Andre Schnabel wrote:
> I'd guess sooner or later three MC members will not be enough to process
> all the applications and review all types of activities.
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Hi Charles, :-)
In that case, would it be a good idea to have a link to them in the
text of the "Get Help" page?
If so, can you give the links you suggest?
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Hi Florian, :-)
I could volunteer as well, if you like.
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posts coming at the rate of about 3 a week... That would only be one
blog post per SC member every once in a while... Could be very
beneficial to community life?
2 cents. ;-)
[1]
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/01/22/hassles-and-woes-and-how-to-solve-them/
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continue a discussion of the relative merits of the two
products, may I ask you to reply to this post in a *new and separate
thread*? Thank you for your understanding if so. ;-)
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> Hi Florian, :-)
>
> All the active members of
have an in-house documentation team that is really
specialized in the product.
David Nelson
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:02, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi Florian, :-)
>
> All the active members of the docs team have accounts on the Alfresco
> site I'm hosting right now. There is a ge
Hi Andreas, :-)
You're obviously entitled to your opinions, and I'm obviously entitled
to mine. ;-)
But this is a request that I'm submitting to the SC for their consideration.
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> Hi Florian, :-)
>
> All t
beyond my death, in any case. Up to then, things
should be OK. But, seriously, I would always cooperate in all good
faith in a handover, and would always make best arrangements not to
damage the LibreOffice project's interests. I *care* about the
project, and I *care* about my reputation. ;-)
Fl
Hi Charles, :-)
I understand that Mike is rescheduling the call. I'll fit in with
whatever time is chosen. (It will be about 2 a.m. my time, most
likely, if 19.00 UTC is chosen.)
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If you could have the SC call at 19.00 UTC it would be so great...
This is a very special conversation we want to have tomorrow, and it's
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Could you maybe make it 2 hours later? This would be likely to be a
long call.
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one time? This would really be an important call for the website
team... Could you maybe do the SC call at 9 pm GMT, for instance?
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Hi Florian, :-)
Ah! Now I understand why you kept me waiting for 2 weeks for any kind
of reply to my request! :-D
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ODFAuthors-Site-with-workflow-tp2282617p2282617.html
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I can satisfy this constraint, or should we just set
this idea aside?
If you don't want to assign the subdomain 'alfresco.libreoffice.org'
and if the docs team seems interested in using the site on my server,
what would be your thoughts if I renamed the domain to
'libreoffice.my
lfresco is a not-inconsiderable process, and that you want
a minimum of 1 Gigabyte of memory, with 2 to 3 being recommended to me
for a busier system.
My server has excellent 24/7 technical support.
Thoughts?
David Nelson
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Hi, :-)
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 20:53, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> Don't you think that the rule that active contributing is mandatory
> for membership does apply? Else there will be members of different
> degrees. :-(
+1
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m me first. No just jumping in. ;-)
And, of course, we will be paying attention to feedback from the community.
SC, is the above a reasonable interpretation of your intentions?
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Hi, :-)
If it's not a "real" libreoffice.org or documentfoundation.org
account, I don't think anyone will be interested. I know I
wouldn't bother using one of these "libreofficecommunity.org", etc.,
accounts myself i'd just use my own mail account
Hi, :-)
Small idea: have you considered using Google Apps for the project's
mail needs? *So* easy to set-up, *so* easy to maintain,
feature-packed, and I'm sure they will give TDF a free upgrade to an
enterprise account. Lots of other benefits, too.
David Nelson
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y and raise your awareness about possible
dangers that I see, and about viewpoints that may not have occurred to you.
I hope only to see the LibreOffice project and TDF survive and succeed.
But I do think the SC needs to take action *urgently*.
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http://www.itworld.com/open-source/132546/ubuntu-libr
wish, after having pushed so hard to get it to its current
state of existence, is that it should be properly managed and
developed as a resource for the community. I trust in your
intelligence and discretion to achieve that. ;-)
David Nelson
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