Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread Jorge Timón
Maybe he didn't configured them well or didn't tried the right ones. He said that on the freicoin forum: http://www.freicoin.org/mobile-app-t28.html Back to topic... What do you think about including some smartphone clients in the list? On 5/3/12, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > On 05/03/2012 11:24

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread Andreas Schildbach
On 05/03/2012 11:24 AM, Jorge Timón wrote: > On 5/3/12, Andreas Schildbach wrote: >> Can we add Bitcoin Wallet? > > Someone said to me that the cell phone apps they had tried were still > too slow. I'm still using an old phone so I didn't know well what to > answer him. I never measured exactly,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread Jorge Timón
On 5/3/12, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > Can we add Bitcoin Wallet? Someone said to me that the cell phone apps they had tried were still too slow. I'm still using an old phone so I didn't know well what to answer him. I recomended him bitcoin wallet and bitcoin spinner, but I warned him that I hav

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread grarpamp
> "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Ok, ok. but only because this reminds me of the top-posting and formatting advice page that I can't seem to find right now. But I'm not munging what my client decides to put in to/cc on a g reply either :) -

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread Andreas Schildbach
On 05/02/2012 03:22 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > We're debating the descriptions on the thread. I provided rewritten > descriptions that try and keep with the "theme per client" goal, whilst > being less technical. Can we add Bitcoin Wallet? I'm not very good at writing descriptions, so I would just ad

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Amir Taaki wrote: > Check it :) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/34 Personally, all this seems far too focused on a centralized website (bitcoin.org), and presents far too many choices at once to the user. On bitcoin.org (registered by Satoshi), I woul

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Jim
Hi Amir, I am fine with the MultiBit description (+ subsequent suggestions like taking the language text out). Looking forward to seeing it on the bitcoin.org site. Jim jim...@fastmail.co.uk -- Live Security Virtual Co

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gary Rowe
Now that I've seen and read through the forum thread on this, I think I'll step back and let others get on with it. As Amir notes, we could be "Bike Shedding" this for years. On 2 May 2012 21:25, Luke-Jr wrote: > On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:34:35 PM Gary Rowe wrote: > > Bitcoin-Qt > > * Develop

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:34:35 PM Gary Rowe wrote: > Bitcoin-Qt > * Developed in C This is far less relevant than license... > Armory > * Requires the entire blockchain > * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt Or bitcoind? > Electrum > * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server) Dependent on ce

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
delete To, re-enter bitco... select > drop down, click send. > > > >Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I > exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I > don't get the same email again. > > > > > > >

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gary Rowe
; > > >Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I > exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I > don't get the same email again. > > > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: Jeff Garzik

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Amir Taaki
eforge.net" Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page How about keeping it simple? Bitcoin-Qt * Requires the entire blockchain * Standalone client * Designed for continuous operation * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer *

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
ply all the default in mutt? And how can I >> exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I >> don't get the same email again. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Jeff Garzik >> To: grarpamp >> Cc: bitc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gary Rowe
how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I >> exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I >> don't get the same email again. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Jeff Garzik >> To: grarpamp &

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Raphael NICOLLE
Too technical if you ask me. We want a webpage for the dumbest end-user I think. Java? C? What the heck is this? Blockchain? Qt? Regards, Raphael On 05/02/2012 09:34 PM, Gary Rowe wrote: How about keeping it simple? Bitcoin-Qt * Requires the entire blockchain * Standalone client * Designed f

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
amp > Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp wrote: > >> Try "Reply to All" > > > > That p

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gary Rowe
And how can I > exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I > don't get the same email again. > > > > - Original Message - > From: Jeff Garzik > To: grarpamp > Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Amir Taaki
exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I don't get the same email again. - Original Message - From: Jeff Garzik To: grarpamp Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> Try "Reply to All" > > That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', > which dupes to the sender and eventually > blows out the to and cc lines as everyone > chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves > most of that. assuming the list sw can

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread grarpamp
> Try "Reply to All" That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out the to and cc lines as everyone chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves most of that. assuming the list sw can do it. --

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread grarpamp
> it's unclear how best to run this page. It's clear we need one though. > the right path is probably the middle one - have some descriptions that try > to be neutral Do it in two parts... - overview, history, architecture model, 'whys'. - agnostic table of features, platforms, stats, protocols,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:21:13 PM grarpamp wrote: > Can someone also please set the reply-to header > for these lists. It's really annoying to hit reply and > not have the list address show up. Thanks :) Try "Reply to All" -

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread grarpamp
> While Bitcoin-Qt is by far the best client This is purely subjective. One's best is another's worst. > These are both things which are particular > suitable to clear objective enumeration. Yes, so for the purposes of compiling a list of clients and libraries, please just stick to a table of fe

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
Btw, I sent updated text to Genjix Armory. I hope that gets included or reviewed. And I agree about the $4k donations thing. That's complete immaterial for this page. Though the rest of the description there is reasonable, and might even be better than what I sent Genjix. -Alan On Wed, May 2

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Hearn
> > Bitcoin-qt is translated into a pretty broad set of languages (now— I > cant tell you how many of them are _good_). Listing language just > under multibit makes it sound like a distinguishing characteristic. > Fair enough then, let's take that out. -

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
> MultiBit supports many languages such as German, Spanish and Greek. Bitcoin-qt is translated into a pretty broad set of languages (now— I cant tell you how many of them are _good_). Listing language just under multibit makes it sound like a distinguishing characteristic. Might it be useful to ad

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Hearn
> > What computer is the initial start time 24-hours+ now? On normal > systems initial sync-up now takes a couple hours. > OK, I haven't tried a full block chain sync for a while. If it's only a couple of hours that's great. Let's change that.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:22:42 AM Mike Hearn wrote: > The original software written by Satoshi Nakamoto, the project's founder. This is just wrong. While Bitcoin-Qt is by far the best client, it is Wladimir's, not Satoshi's. > If your computer is low powered or you aren't willing to tolerate

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
> If your computer is low powered or you aren't willing to tolerate a 24-hour+ > initial start time, What computer is the initial start time 24-hours+ now? On normal systems initial sync-up now takes a couple hours. It could be slower, of course, if you have the bad luck to end up with unrespo

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Hearn
We're debating the descriptions on the thread. I provided rewritten descriptions that try and keep with the "theme per client" goal, whilst being less technical. I think it's unclear how best to run this page. It's clear we need one though. If everyone can just submit whatever they like then we'll

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Reiner
mir Taaki > Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" < > bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page > > > Hey, looks good! I'm glad to see them sorted

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Amir Taaki
Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page Hey, looks good!  I'm glad to see them sorted alphabetically :) A couple comments:  I don't think the entries for "w

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Reiner
Hey, looks good! I'm glad to see them sorted alphabetically :) A couple comments: I don't think the entries for "wallet security" and "backups" accurately describe Armory. Wallet Security should say "Encrypt/Offline" or something to to that effect -- after all, offline wallets are the holy grai

[Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Amir Taaki
Check it :) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/34 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond