Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Jorge Timón
2011/12/15, Jordan Mack : > I believe it is also worth mentioning the possible susceptibility of a > DOS attack on a publicly available alias system. Assuming that an alias > lookup triggers the creation of a new Bitcoin address, the private key > would need to be retained indefinitely. If gone unn

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Jorge Timón
Andy sounded very convincing when talking in favor of URLs. What's wrong with his proposal? 2011/12/15, Walter Stanish : > To my mind, it is far more likely that third party hosted services > (such as providers of hosted wallet, conventional currency holding and > exchange services) will provide a

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Jordan Mack
I believe it is also worth mentioning the possible susceptibility of a DOS attack on a publicly available alias system. Assuming that an alias lookup triggers the creation of a new Bitcoin address, the private key would need to be retained indefinitely. If gone unnoticed, this could consume con

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Walter Stanish
>> Just so we're clear, what is the need for HTTP at all? >> A query for a string and an answer can all be handled via DNS. > It is a lot easier to set up an HTTP server to dynamically respond > with addresses than a DNS record. Interesting that you bring up the effort factor. The notion that ev

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Zell Faze
It is a lot easier to set up an HTTP server to dynamically respond with addresses than a DNS record.  It is considered a good practice to use a different address for every payment. "It stopped being just a website a long time ago. For many of us, most of us, Wikipedia h

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Kyle Henderson
Just so we're clear, what is the need for HTTP at all? A query for a string and an answer can all be handled via DNS. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Zell Faze wrote: > Could we combine this proposal and the HTTPS proposal? > > The DNSSEC TXT record could give instructions on how to query an H

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Zell Faze
Could we combine this proposal and the HTTPS proposal? The DNSSEC TXT record could give instructions on how to query an HTTPS server to get the address. Then we get the dynamism of HTTPS without having a rigid URL scheme for querying the server along with the advantages of DNSSEC. --- On Wed,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Rick Wesson
understand that not *everyone* wants or will adhere to that best practice and in my NSHO it isn't. -rick 2011/12/14 Luke-Jr : > On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:02:25 PM Rick Wesson wrote: >> I also am largely in favor of using secured zones to publish TXT >> records to digital currencies. I've

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:02:25 PM Rick Wesson wrote: > I also am largely in favor of using secured zones to publish TXT > records to digital currencies. I've been thinking mainly about TXT > using the following format for bitcoin. > > _btc.. Don't confuse BTC (Bitcoin unit) with BC (Bitc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Rick Wesson
I was looking at the wiki entry for this and noticed that your description of DNSSEC is incorrect. It is an internet standard and is widely deployed in the root (.), many TLDs, ccTLDs and second leverl domains. Also understand when the IETF or ICANN adopts new (we worked on DNSSEC no less than 10

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Jorge Timón
What if we specify "bitcoin" to make it easier for software (maybe the browser, a plugin for the browser, the bitcoin client analyzing the clipboard...) to easily detect that you expect a bitcoin address when going to url? If puted in the bitcoin client, the "bitcoin://" is optional (? and can also

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 15:07 -0500, Luke-Jr wrote: > > "Sure, send it to david.bitcoin.se". > > That's not a valid URI. I realize I'm responding to an useless nitpick with another useless nitpick but here goes. It doesn't have to be a valid URI. As long as the recipient (or the software he's usin

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread D.H.
>> "Sure, send it to david.bitcoin.se".>> That's not a valid URI. I'm not sure I get your point. If someone tells you "hey, check out the web page at xkcd.com", is that your response or do you just open up your web browser and type "xkcd.com"? D.H.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:22:12 PM D.H. wrote: > > Then forget the hardcoding of "https" the hardcoding of "bitcoin-alias" > > and> "?handle=" and the original email-looking "gen...@foo.org". Just > > use the URL.> Then the author of the service can use whatever they want. > > I like this

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-14 Thread D.H.
> Then forget the hardcoding of "https" the hardcoding of "bitcoin-alias" and> > "?handle=" and the original email-looking "gen...@foo.org".  Just use the > URL.> Then the author of the service can use whatever they want. I like this a lot. It's very simple to understand and would be very easy to