Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-28 Thread Douglas Fischer
To me, the better part is to imagine that IPv6 only Link-Layer(on IXPs and Transit providers) will make PMTUD better working. Em ter., 23 de abr. de 2024 11:57, Ondrej Zajicek via Bird-users < bird-users@network.cz> escreveu: > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 02:29:44PM -0500, Jay Hanke via Bird-users wr

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Ondrej Zajicek via Bird-users
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 02:29:44PM -0500, Jay Hanke via Bird-users wrote: > Has anyone implemented lab or production IPv4 next hops over an IPv6 > only IX vlan with BIRD as the route server? > > I'm interested to hear your experiences. Specifically router vendor interop. Note that there is an Eur

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Chris Malayter via Bird-users
Thank you! > On Apr 23, 2024, at 10:28 AM, Tore Anderson wrote: > > * Chris Malayter >> Probably better question. Is RFC5549 supported by BIRD? > > Yes, RFC 8950 is on the list of supported standards, and can be configured > with the «[require] extended next hop» configuration option. > > h

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Chris Malayter Probably better question. Is RFC5549 supported by BIRD? Yes, RFC 8950 is on the list of supported standards, and can be configured with the «[require] extended next hop» configuration option. https://bird.network.cz/?get_doc&v=20&f=bird-6.html#ss6.4 No reason whatsoever th

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Chris Malayter via Bird-users
Probably better question. Is RFC5549 supported by BIRD? -Chris > On Apr 23, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Jay Hanke via Bird-users > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 8:45 AM Darren O'Connor > wrote: >> >> I have used rfc5549 extensively in production, but not with bird. Is that >> the same setup yo

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Jay Hanke via Bird-users
I mistyped. Should be IPv6 hops for IPv4 routes. On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 9:10 AM Tore Anderson wrote: > > * Jay Hanke > > > I haven't, but I cannot begin to fathom how that could possibly work. > > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chroboczek-int-v4-via-v6-01.html > > > > > >

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jay Hanke I haven't, but I cannot begin to fathom how that could possibly work. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chroboczek-int-v4-via-v6-01.html How can the receiving router possibly resolve an IPv4 next-hop address to an destination Ethernet MAC address, if the inter

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Jay Hanke via Bird-users
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 8:45 AM Darren O'Connor wrote: > > I have used rfc5549 extensively in production, but not with bird. Is that the > same setup you're talking about here? > Yes. Are there any IXPs doing this right now with bird2?

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Nico Schottelius via Bird-users
Ciao Tore, if I am not mistaken this is rather easy and "standard": - Router knows a.b.c.d/x is supposed to be routed via 2001:db::1 - Router can lookup the mac address of 2001:db::1 (usual icmp6) - Router sends packet for a.b.c.d/x towards mac address of 2001:db::1 That's it. Cheers, Nico p

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Darren O'Connor
I have used rfc5549 extensively in production, but not with bird. Is that the same setup you're talking about here? On Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 09:31 Jay Hanke via Bird-users wrote: > > >> I haven't, but I cannot begin to fathom how that could possibly work. >> > > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draf

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Jay Hanke via Bird-users
> > I haven't, but I cannot begin to fathom how that could possibly work. > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chroboczek-int-v4-via-v6-01.html > How can the receiving router possibly resolve an IPv4 next-hop address > to an destination Ethernet MAC address, if the interface facing the IX > d

Re: IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jay Hanke Has anyone implemented lab or production IPv4 next hops over an IPv6 only IX vlan with BIRD as the route server? I'm interested to hear your experiences. Specifically router vendor interop. I haven't, but I cannot begin to fathom how that could possibly work. How can the receiving

IPv4 next-hops over IPv6

2024-04-19 Thread Jay Hanke via Bird-users
Has anyone implemented lab or production IPv4 next hops over an IPv6 only IX vlan with BIRD as the route server? I'm interested to hear your experiences. Specifically router vendor interop. Jay