Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/15/2013 03:40 PM, Chris Buxton wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I will do some more testing with this to see if I can indeed remove the root.hint includes. But I have a question. I have tried to dig in my server for the root info like you can a root server,

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Alan Clegg
On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> The hostname 'localhost' can mean different things to different computers. >> It probably means ::1 (IPv6 localhost) in this case. Try explicitly >> specifying the IP address rather than using the hostname. > > Appearently so. Very

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/15/2013 03:40 PM, Chris Buxton wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I will do some more testing with this to see if I can indeed remove the root.hint includes. But I have a question. I have tried to dig in my server for the root info like you can a root server,

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Chris Buxton
On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I will do some more testing with this to see if I can indeed remove the > root.hint includes. But I have a question. I have tried to dig in my server > for the root info like you can a root server, but obviously this is not the > way to do

builtin hints working - Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I commented out include for the root.hints and things are working still so obviously it is built in even though the string search is not working on my binary. On 02/15/2013 12:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/15/2013 12:37 PM, Chris Buxton wrote: On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Shawn Bakh

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/15/2013 12:37 PM, Chris Buxton wrote: On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Shawn Bakhtiar wrote: Running bind rooted on FC 16 using the standard package. The ca file is located in /var/named/chroot/var/named/named.ca The hints are not built in. [shawn@www ~]$ strings /usr/sbin/named | grepA.

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-15 Thread Chris Buxton
On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Shawn Bakhtiar wrote: > > Running bind rooted on FC 16 using the standard package. > > The ca file is located in /var/named/chroot/var/named/named.ca > > The hints are not built in. > [shawn@www ~]$ strings /usr/sbin/named | grep A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET > returns nothi

RE: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar
:44:02 -0500 > From: r...@htt-consult.com > To: d...@dotat.at > Subject: Re: Building a fresh named.root > CC: bind-users@lists.isc.org > > > On 02/14/2013 10:18 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> More records 1/3/2013 than in the name

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 10:26 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: You too are missing some A and records! Here is mine: Use bufsize=4096 or at least something around 700, else the answer doesn't fitand is truncated. I was thinking it was something like that. Thanks. jaap dig +bu

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 10:18 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: More records 1/3/2013 than in the named.ca stub which IF my version has it builtin raises the question about keeping current at this time in the Internet (and trusting Redhat to roll in new builtin hints as they go). No ne

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
You too are missing some A and records! Here is mine: Use bufsize=4096 or at least something around 700, else the answer doesn't fitand is truncated. jaap dig +bufsize=4096 . ns @198.41.0.4 ; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-P1 <<>> +bufsize=4096 . ns @198.41.0.4 ;; global options: +cmd

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Tony Finch
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > More records 1/3/2013 than in the named.ca stub which IF my version has > it builtin raises the question about keeping current at this time in the > Internet (and trusting Redhat to roll in new builtin hints as they go). No need to worry. They are only hints, and

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 09:47 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Which begs the next question I was going to ask. How often should I download a fresh named.zone? Never. If you keep BIND reasonably up-to-date its built-in hints will work fine. More records 1/3/2013 than in the named.c

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 09:38 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/14/2013 09:05 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: BIND now comes with a baked in roots file (in the imaginatively named lib/dns/rootns.c ) Not (at least by that name) in the Redhat/Centos 6.3 bind 9.8.2. That is a source file name

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 09:34 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/14/2013 09:05 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: BIND now comes with a baked in roots file (in the imaginatively named lib/dns/rootns.c ) Not (at least by that name) in the Redhat/Centos 6.3 bind

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Tony Finch
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Which begs the next question I was going to ask. How often should I download > a fresh named.zone? Never. If you keep BIND reasonably up-to-date its built-in hints will work fine. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ Forties, Cromarty: East, veering southe

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 09:19 AM, Christian Tardif wrote: You're right. CentOS 6.3 does not have named.root. They just call it named.ca. That's actually the same file thing. You just need to refer to the right file name for hints. Note below that I did see the named.ca which is from their namecaching

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Tony Finch
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 02/14/2013 09:05 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: > > BIND now comes with a baked in roots file (in the imaginatively named > > lib/dns/rootns.c ) > > Not (at least by that name) in the Redhat/Centos 6.3 bind 9.8.2. That is a source file name which is compiled into the binary

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Oops ignore that earlier send. Hit wrong button... On 02/14/2013 08:42 AM, Steven Carr wrote: On 14 February 2013 13:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What went wrong here? Which do I use? Not sure what is up with your dig response (can you post the contents) but it works for me and if your dig s

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Warren Kumari
On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 02/14/2013 09:05 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: >> BIND now comes with a baked in roots file (in the imaginatively named >> lib/dns/rootns.c ) > > Not (at least by that name) in the Redhat/Centos 6.3 bind 9.8.2. Nope -- it is in lib/dns/r

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/14/2013 09:05 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: BIND now comes with a baked in roots file (in the imaginatively named lib/dns/rootns.c ) Not (at least by that name) in the Redhat/Centos 6.3 bind 9.8.2. There is no need for a named.root file, and is just another thing to go wrong… Is there an

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Christian Tardif
You're right. CentOS 6.3 does not have named.root. They just call it named.ca. That's actually the same file thing. You just need to refer to the right file name for hints. Christian... On 02/14/2013 08:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The Centos 6.3 bind and bind-chroot do not seem to come with

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Warren Kumari
BIND now comes with a baked in roots file (in the imaginatively named lib/dns/rootns.c ) There is no need for a named.root file, and is just another thing to go wrong… W On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > The Centos 6.3 bind and bind-chroot do not seem to come with a named.

Re: Building a fresh named.root

2013-02-14 Thread Steven Carr
On 14 February 2013 13:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > What went wrong here? > > Which do I use? Not sure what is up with your dig response (can you post the contents) but it works for me and if your dig still isn't working use the one from FTP. sjcarr@elmo:~ $ dig . ns @198.41.0.4 ; <<>> DiG 9.8