Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-09 Thread Ondřej Surý
Ok. And what are your observations? Or do you expect us to debug your issue and interpret the outputs you send here for you? As a side note, the rndc outputs you are pasting into your emails are mostly useless to debug memory issues. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and y

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-09 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
I’ve been running for 12+ hours with a max-cache-size of 256M (since I’m on a machine with 2GB that does a lot of data reduction as it’s a honeypot firewall). This is what I’ve collected. +++ Statistics Dump +++ (1749514002) ++ Incoming Requests ++ 203077 QUERY 12014

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-09 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
I take it back, it does at the beginning of the manual. It would be helpful if all references to had links back to the explanation. Odd that when you specify a percentage the effective amount is logged by named, but when you specify an absolute amount it’s not. > On Jun 8, 2025, at 10:46 P

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-09 Thread Sten Carlsen
Actually it does https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9.20.9/reference.html#term-sizeval -- Best regards Sten Carlsen No improvements come from shouting: "MALE BOVINE MANURE!!!" > On 9 Jun 2025, at 06.47, Philip Prindeville via bind-users > wrote: > > I read: > > https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
I read: https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9.20.9/reference.html#namedconf-statement-max-cache-size and it doesn’t explain the notation for . > On Jun 8, 2025, at 10:39 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > What If you actually read the manual that I sent you - syntax of sizeval is > explained there. >

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
What If you actually read the manual that I sent you - syntax of sizeval is explained there. -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. > On 9. 6. 2025, at 6:34, Philip Prindevi

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
Maybe GB is the only unit it groks. Jun 8 22:31:52 OpenWrt named[19145]: /etc/bind/named.conf:42: expected integer and optional unit or percent near ‘1536MB’ Nope: Jun 8 22:32:48 OpenWrt named[19609]: /etc/bind/named.conf:43: expected integer and optional unit or percent near ‘2GB' > On

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
It does have the effect. Also there’s BIND 9 ARM at https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9.20.9/ -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be differentw . Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. > On 9. 6. 2025, at 6:20, Philip Prinde

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
Jun 8 22:22:10 OpenWrt named[15142]: /etc/bind/named.conf:42: expected integer and optional unit or percent near '1638MB' > On Jun 8, 2025, at 10:17 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Yes, there's no math involved, it just honors the limit. > > FTR you can also say: > > max-cache-size 2GB; > > You

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
I’ll try to get a smoking gun. How do you configure an explicit number of bytes with max-cache-size? The manpage says: max-cache-size ( default | unlimited | | ); but doesn’t explain the syntax of “sizeval”. I tried “1638M” but that doesn’t seem to have an effect. > On Jun 8, 2025, at 10

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
Yes, there's no math involved, it just honors the limit. FTR you can also say: max-cache-size 2GB; You don't have to specify it to the last byte. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outsi

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
I don't see anything wrong with the memory in the attached file - 13MB doesn't seem to be causing any havoc. And it roughly matches what I am seeing here with fresh named instance on 64-bit machine: $ smem -P name[d] PID User Command Swap USS PSS RSS

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
Odd. I tried: max-cache-size 1717986918; and restarted and I don’t see anything in the logs about it. But I did when I used a percentage. > On Jun 8, 2025, at 10:02 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > The 1.7GB is what the system is reporting. That’s why I asked as I’ve seen > OpenWRT repo

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
The 1.7GB is what the system is reporting. That’s why I asked as I’ve seen OpenWRT reporting weird or no values before. 171MB cache is little on a low side and negative effects from overmem LRU cleaning will going to hurt the performance. I would suggest to set a fixed size for the cache - 1.6G

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
This is on an embedded system, i.e. a 4-core AMD64 low-power machine with 16GB of memory, that uses 2GB of that as a tmpfs. 90% would cripple the system. I’m going to try 10% (after all, it’s only doing name service for 200 machines, maybe 450 RRs, and more than have of the machines are IoTs t

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
Working on it: https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/26721 Here’s my statistics-channel output: named-stats.xml Description: XML document > On May 18, 2025, at 10:30 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Well, you’ve provided basically nothing as leads, so it is hard to tell > what’s going on w

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
Does the named report proper max-cache-size into the log when starting? Something like: 'max-cache- size 90%' - setting to 86522MB (out of 96136MB) Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
> On Jun 8, 2025, at 3:07 PM, Philip Prindeville via bind-users > wrote: > > > >> On May 21, 2025, at 3:38 PM, Ben Scott wrote: >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Philip Prindeville via bind-users" >>> To: "bind-users" >>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 5:20:59 PM >>> Subject: Sig

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
> On May 21, 2025, at 3:38 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > > - Original Message - >> From: "Philip Prindeville via bind-users" >> To: "bind-users" >> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 5:20:59 PM >> Subject: Significant memory usage > >> What I’ve noticed is that at startup I’m using about 33K pages

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-06-08 Thread Philip Prindeville via bind-users
> On May 21, 2025, at 3:38 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > > - Original Message - >> From: "Philip Prindeville via bind-users" >> To: "bind-users" >> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 5:20:59 PM >> Subject: Significant memory usage > >> What I’ve noticed is that at startup I’m using about 33K pages

Re: DNSSEC Validation not working

2025-06-06 Thread Darren Ankney
Hi Luca, This is correct: dnssec-validation auto; If you use "yes" there, then you must supply a trust anchor. Auto is the default. The only idea I have is this: zone "." IN { type hint; file "named.ca"; }; You don't need this anymore. BIND 9.18 will automatically find the root zones starting

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-05 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
On 04/06/2025 18:50, Greg Choules wrote: The help text for delv says you can specify a source using -b, the same as you can with dig: Usage:  delv [@server] {q-opt} {d-opt} [domain] [q-type] [q-class] Where:  domain  is in the Domain Name System         q-class  is one of (in,hs,ch,...) [defaul

Re: Significant Throughput Drop in BIND 9.20.8 for Batch DNS Updates – Seeking Community Insights and Solutions

2025-06-05 Thread Petr Špaček
On 6/5/25 06:50, Sahil Sharma D via bind-users wrote: *_Use case :_*// Trying to load 120M identifier of length 15 digit which will load in zone using nsupdate in a batch of 1000. A file created having 120M identifier and sent to nsupdate in a batch of 1000 to add identifier in bind. _Befo

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
The help text for delv says you can specify a source using -b, the same as you can with dig: Usage: delv [@server] {q-opt} {d-opt} [domain] [q-type] [q-class] Where: domain is in the Domain Name System q-class is one of (in,hs,ch,...) [default: in] q-type is one of (a,any,mx,

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
Hi Stace. The transport protocol used to ask the question is (or should be) independent of the question being asked. So in this case asking for a PTR record for an IPv6 address wouldn't change whether IPv4 or IPv6 is used to make the recursive queries. I've done a bit more testing on this, a

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
On 03/06/2025 22:06, Petr Špaček wrote: I've created https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/5351 so we can improve logging. Your input on what sort of information is useful would be much appreciated. Thanks very much for that. I've added a comment. :-) -- Visit https://lists.isc.or

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Petr Špaček
On 6/3/25 11:29, Nick Tait wrote: On 02/06/2025 23:30, Petr Špaček wrote: In short, with an empty cache, BIND will exceed pre-configured limit on number of queries it can do. This is protection from various attacks which misuse DNS to attack itself. Thanks for the explanation! This particula

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Petr Špaček
On 6/3/25 12:06, Petr Špaček wrote: On 6/3/25 11:29, Nick Tait wrote: On 02/06/2025 23:30, Petr Špaček wrote: In short, with an empty cache, BIND will exceed pre-configured limit on number of queries it can do. This is protection from various attacks which misuse DNS to attack itself. Thanks

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Stacey Marshall
On 3 Jun 2025, at 10:29, Nick Tait via bind-users wrote: > But I also noticed that delv only makes A queries (not ), and even if I > specify "-6" on the command-line it makes no difference? Have yo tried using an IPv6 address with the -x option? delv -x :::45.90.5.195 +ns +qmin +maxque

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-03 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
On 02/06/2025 23:30, Petr Špaček wrote: In short, with an empty cache, BIND will exceed pre-configured limit on number of queries it can do. This is protection from various attacks which misuse DNS to attack itself. Thanks for the explanation! This particular recursive query doesn't seem espe

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-02 Thread Petr Špaček
On 6/2/25 12:01, Nick Tait via bind-users wrote: I can reproduce the issue by clearing the BIND cache, and then running the following DIG command, to attempt a reverse DNS lookup of 45.90.5.195 On 6/2/25 12:54, Carlos Horowicz via bind-users wrote: The problem seems related to "No zone cut at

Re: QNAME minimisation question

2025-06-02 Thread Carlos Horowicz via bind-users
Hi The problem seems related to "No zone cut at 90.45.in-addr.arpa." , shouldn't trigger a SERVFAIL with qname-minimisation relaxed This is strange, because the intermediate response has a SOA , and NSEC seems enough to fail-over to qname-minimisation off .. it seems you're force to set the

Re: Limit the number of Additional RR in an Answer

2025-05-27 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Hi Jeremy Thanks for the Link > Can you share an example here of the NAPTR or SRV query resulting in > Additional section records? The additional sections make sense to me, they avoid further A/ lookups but I suspect they might be the cause for the crashed of small memory CPE's. I have one

Re: Limit the number of Additional RR in an Answer

2025-05-27 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
> To further dig into that direction, I was asking Google if there is a > bind setting to limit or disable the sending of additional RR with an > answer but could not find such a setting. > > * Is there such a setting? See minimal-responses in the ARM https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/stable/refere

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-23 Thread Michael De Roover
On Saturday, May 24, 2025 3:53:57 AM CEST Fred Morris wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2025, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: > > I don't think there is anything that I would describe that way. But there > > may be some rate limiting option(s) that you could use to at least cripple > > using DNS queries

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-23 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 5/23/25 8:53 PM, Fred Morris wrote: If you fail in an outright, reproducible, measurable fashion you give your opponent predictability and confidence. As a defender you want to undermine that and look like an under-resourced, poorly administered network that somehow, we don't know exactly ho

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-23 Thread Fred Morris
On Fri, 23 May 2025, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: On 5/22/25 9:23 AM, Karol Nowicki via bind-users wrote: Does ISC Bind software by native has any dns tunneling prevention embedded ? I don't think there is anything that I would describe that way. But there may be some rate limiting

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-23 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 5/22/25 9:23 AM, Karol Nowicki via bind-users wrote: Does ISC Bind software by native has any dns tunneling prevention embedded ? I don't think there is anything that I would describe that way. But there may be some rate limiting option(s) that you could use to at least cripple using DNS

Re: Migration to inline-signing

2025-05-23 Thread Crist Clark
an you tell me the error message? I would not expect the zone stopping > from loading, but it's hard to tell without full configuration. > > Note that when switching, signatures and NSEC records from the dynamic > zone would be removed and moving to inline-signing requires a full >

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-22 Thread Michael De Roover
On Thursday, May 22, 2025 4:23:05 PM CEST Karol Nowicki via bind-users wrote: > Does ISC Bind software by native has any dns tunneling prevention embedded? > Thanks BIND on its own does not do this. Assuming that you are running it on a LAN as a resolver meanwhile, you can make it the only thing

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-22 Thread Michael De Roover
On Thursday, May 22, 2025 4:23:05 PM CEST Karol Nowicki via bind-users wrote: > Does ISC Bind software by native has any dns tunneling prevention embedded? > Thanks BIND on its own does not do this. Assuming that you are running it on a LAN as a resolver meanwhile, you can make it the only thing

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-22 Thread Mark Andrews
No. This is not a thing regular DNS servers do.-- Mark AndrewsOn 23 May 2025, at 00:23, Karol Nowicki via bind-users wrote: Does ISC Bind software by native has any dns tunneling prevention embedded ? Thanks Wysłane z Yahoo Mail do iPhone -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: Dns tunnel detection/prevention

2025-05-22 Thread Marco Moock
Am 22.05.2025 um 14:23:05 Uhr schrieb Karol Nowicki via bind-users: > Does ISC Bind software by native has any dns tunneling prevention > embedded ? Please give more info what you want to accomplish. > Wysłane z Yahoo Mail do iPhone Please configure your mail software not to include such lines.

Re: 3Rd Follow Up - Re: My Introduction and current issues

2025-05-22 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Sure. Your decision, of course. But any network application is only going to work if the underlying network supporting it doesn't do silly things with its traffic. On Thu, 22 May 2025 at 15:23, wrote: > Thank you for all your assistance. I have made the decision to > decommission Bind9 and insta

Re: 3Rd Follow Up - Re: My Introduction and current issues

2025-05-22 Thread bind9
Thank you for all your assistance. I have made the decision to decommission Bind9 and install Unbound in its place. There seem to be a lot more configuration options that might help me with the problems I am having. Problems I never had with Windows Server 2003. Thanks anyway and take care of

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-05-22 Thread Petr Špaček
On 5/21/25 23:38, Ben Scott wrote: What I’ve noticed is that at startup I’m using about 33K pages as the VSZ (per top on x86_64 hardware). VSZ (virtual size) just counts the number of virtual memory pages associated with the process in some way. That includes RAM, but also memory mapped fi

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-05-21 Thread Ben Scott
- Original Message - > From: "Philip Prindeville via bind-users" > To: "bind-users" > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 5:20:59 PM > Subject: Significant memory usage > What I’ve noticed is that at startup I’m using about 33K pages as the VSZ (per > top on x86_64 hardware). VSZ (virtual size

Re: Migration to inline-signing

2025-05-20 Thread Matthijs Mekking
ll without full configuration. Note that when switching, signatures and NSEC records from the dynamic zone would be removed and moving to inline-signing requires a full re-sign of the zone. - Matthijs I assume I could freeze, sync, clean DNSSEC records in the file, and reload with inline-signin

Re: 3Rd Follow Up - Re: My Introduction and current issues

2025-05-19 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
>From the correct alias this time! On Mon, 19 May 2025 at 22:46, Greg Choules wrote: > Your router (or your ISP behind it) is losing a lot of traffic. Here is a > timeline of frames with explanations of each, which would have been so much > simpler if you hadn't tried to hide your actual address

Re: Significant memory usage

2025-05-18 Thread Ondřej Surý
Well, you’ve provided basically nothing as leads, so it is hard to tell what’s going on with just output of named -V. I would suggest to recompile names with jemalloc enabled and then use jemalloc profiling to see where the memory goes. See https://www.isc.org/blogs/2023-BIND-memory-management-

Re: 3Rd Follow Up - Re: My Introduction and current issues

2025-05-18 Thread Danilo Godec via bind-users
On 18.05.2025 19:53, bi...@clearviz.biz wrote: I include it because all of the packets seem to have the same problem (the router attempts a ping to my main server (ending in octet ".10"), which it claims the host is unreachable.  Not sure why tha

Re: Migration to inline-signing

2025-05-17 Thread Michael Richardson
Crist Clark wrote: > Tired of looking at the log messages warning me that inline-signing > will be the default in 9.20. I want to convert my 9.18 to using > inline-signing. Right now all of the zones use dnssec-policy and are > dynamic. My experience was that it was best to do bu

Re: DNSVIZ errors

2025-05-16 Thread Michael De Roover
Preposterous. PREPOSTEROUS!!! Expect no meaningful response other than that, not from here. Such a high horse mentality, utterly diabolical! Michael De Roover > On 16 May 2025, at 03:53, akritrim® Intelligence™ > wrote: > > i didn’t receive your reply but saw this on lists archive so replyi

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-16 Thread Benny Pedersen via bind-users
Benny Pedersen via bind-users skrev den 2025-05-15 20:42: Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2025-05-15 17:04: turn off QNAME minimisation on DNS servers used by mailservers for DNSBL/DNSWL checks. make a better rbldnsd that support qname :) or dump zone from rbldnsd to bind.zone, the bind zon

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2025-05-15 17:04: turn off QNAME minimisation on DNS servers used by mailservers for DNSBL/DNSWL checks. On 15.05.25 20:42, Benny Pedersen via bind-users wrote: make a better rbldnsd that support qname :) or dump zone from rbldnsd to bind.zone, the bind zone c

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-16 Thread Petr Špaček
On 5/15/25 20:42, Benny Pedersen via bind-users wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2025-05-15 17:04: turn off QNAME minimisation on DNS servers used by mailservers for DNSBL/DNSWL checks. make a better rbldnsd that support qname :) All it would take to fix it is returning NOERROR inste

Re: DNSVIZ errors

2025-05-15 Thread akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users
i didn’t receive your reply but saw this on lists archive so replying to you: Do be aware that Ondrej is a member of ISC, the organization that develops BIND. He is also one of the maintainers of the Debian release of BIND which you are using. Why should i be aware? Is he is a threat or so

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-15 Thread Benny Pedersen via bind-users
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2025-05-15 17:04: turn off QNAME minimisation on DNS servers used by mailservers for DNSBL/DNSWL checks. make a better rbldnsd that support qname :) or dump zone from rbldnsd to bind.zone, the bind zone can be in sqlite to not be so memory hungry or report

RE: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-15 Thread DEMBLANS Mathieu
Thanks, I didn't find this information during my search in archives. I will disable it.   -Message d'origine- De : bind-users De la part de Matus UHLAR - fantomas Envoyé : jeudi 15 mai 2025 17:02 À : bind-users@lists.isc.org Objet : Re: long FQDN resolution On 15.0

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-15 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
I was beaten to it! It's called QNAME minimisation and is specified here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9156 In BIND it can be disabled with this statement: https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9.20.8/reference.html#namedconf-statement-qname-minimization Hope that helps, Greg On Thu, 15 M

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-15 Thread Marco Moock
Am 15.05.2025 um 14:31:40 Uhr schrieb DEMBLANS Mathieu: > It is problematic for DNSBL requests because it generate a lot of > useless requests and this kind of service look at the number of > requests done (usage policy): Disable qname minimization for that. -- Gruß Marco Send unsolicited bul

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.05.25 14:31, DEMBLANS Mathieu wrote: I have a question about mecanism for requests of long subdomains FQDN. Our DNS, which is in recursive configuration, split long fqdn request with subdomains requests like : Original request from the client to our recursive DNS : A a.b.c.d.example.com

Re: long FQDN resolution

2025-05-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.05.25 14:31, DEMBLANS Mathieu wrote: I have a question about mecanism for requests of long subdomains FQDN. Our DNS, which is in recursive configuration, split long fqdn request with subdomains requests like : Original request from the client to our recursive DNS : A a.b.c.d.example.com

Re: Strange named failures

2025-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
You are running an unsupported BIND 9.18 release. I would start with upgrading to the latest 9.18 or even 9.20 release. There’s no point in debugging software that’s missing one year of accumulated bug fixes. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be di

Re: Query: suppressing autogenerated empty zones (e.g. 10.in-addr.arpa) that should be configured via DNS catalog?

2025-05-12 Thread MCBRIDE, DAVID W.
On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 15:20 +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > On 12. 5. 2025, at 15:11, MCBRIDE, DAVID W. > > wrote: > > > > The alternative is to disable the creation of all empty zones > > entirely with `empty-zones-enable no;`, however, this is > > unattractive as it will fail broken. > > This

Re: Query: suppressing autogenerated empty zones (e.g. 10.in-addr.arpa) that should be configured via DNS catalog?

2025-05-12 Thread Ondřej Surý
> On 12. 5. 2025, at 15:11, MCBRIDE, DAVID W. > wrote: > > The alternative is to disable the creation of all empty zones entirely > with `empty-zones-enable no;`, however, this is unattractive as it will > fail broken. This would be my preferred solution. > (I can try to ensure that the catalo

2nd Follow Up - Re: My Introduction and current issues

2025-05-11 Thread bind9
ot;Connection Refused" errors. I am gathering that other devices needing DNS resolutions on the WAP are also failing similarly. I will analyze accordingly. Question: What is setting the "timeout" value in re: these queries, and can I tweak it for a bit more time? Is

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
Sorry let me try again. I missed your other questions... On 11/05/2025 17:17, Fred Morris wrote: BIND insists on addresses bound to interfaces (at least, that's my contention, based on experience yesterday, which may or may not reflect some reality which has been manufactured today). resolved

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
On 11/05/2025 17:17, Fred Morris wrote: BIND insists on addresses bound to interfaces (at least, that's my contention, based on experience yesterday, which may or may not reflect some reality which has been manufactured today). resolved uses a loopback address which is not bound to an interfac

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Fred Morris
BIND insists on addresses bound to interfaces (at least, that's my contention, based on experience yesterday, which may or may not reflect some reality which has been manufactured today). resolved uses a loopback address which is not bound to an interface (at least that's my experience, which

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Paul Kosinski via bind-users
like the fact that it 'feels' like part of systemd, including > stuff like: > o You can specify search domains in your netplan configuration > (using networkd as the renderer in netplan). > o The "resolvectl" utility feels like a sibling to the

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
enderer in netplan). o The "resolvectl" utility feels like a sibling to the other systemd utilities like "systemctl", "journalctl", etc. Nick. P.S. I hope I'm not (re-) starting some sort of holy war. That is not my intention, and I'm definitely /

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Fred Morris
Of course: it's ALWAYS DNS! (Sorry, I had to say that because it's Saturday. I'll move on.) Actually in this case I'm pretty sure it /is/ systemd resolved, so yeah it is kinda DNS because systemd is kinda trying to do DNS. On Sat, 10 May 2025, Greg Choules via bind-users wrote: [...] But al

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On 10 May 2025, at 4:29, bi...@clearviz.biz wrote: The resolv.conf file contains: nameserver 127.0.0.53 search mydomain.net On a "vanilla" Ubuntu system, the file to which */etc/resolv.conf* is a symlink contains (in addition to the above) relevant comments, including the followin

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
127.anything is valid on the loopback interface as it is a /8. You will have to add addresses as aliases, but that is easy. Read the man pages first and check what addresses already exist on lo0. Ubuntu must have gotten 127.0.0.53 from somewhere. Get tcpdump and Wireshark working so you can see wha

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Hika van den Hoven
Hoi Arnold, Be aware that in most configurations /etc/resolv.conf is (re)created at boot time on configuration of the nic. If the nic is configured through dhcp, check there for the weird ip address! If it is configured otherwise, check there. It might be that the stub file is not overwritten at

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread bind9
On 2025-05-10 02:03, Greg Choules wrote: @Danilo you are correct, the contents of /etc/resolv.conf are not set by BIND and BIND itself does not use them. But all applications running on that machine (including dig, unless you specify @) that want some kind of name resolution will make OS syste

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread bind9
On 2025-05-10 04:26, Ondřej Surý wrote: I think there's too many moving parts. Personally, I would suggest to remove systemd-resolved as a first step and configure the system to use the configured resolver directly. Systemd-resolved was disabled a while ago. One of the first things I did.

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
I think there’s too many moving parts.Personally, I would suggest to remove systemd-resolved as a first step and configure the system to use the configured resolver directly.However, it is also unclear to me whether the desktop station in question is Linux, Windows and if it is Linux what distribut

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-10 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
@Danilo you are correct, the contents of /etc/resolv.conf are not set by BIND and BIND itself does not use them. But all applications running on that machine (including dig, unless you specify @) that want some kind of name resolution will make OS system calls and then the OS *will* use what's in r

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Danilo Godec via bind-users
On 10.05.2025 05:29, bi...@clearviz.biz wrote: >Also check /etc/resolv.conf and see what address(es) is/are listed as nameservers. The resolv.conf file contains:   nameserver 127.0.0.53   search mydom

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread bind9
Well, let's put it this way. I have been monitoring the logs (/var/log/syslog in particular) as well as the separate logs I created (named.log and query.log). I'm getting a lot of "Connection refused" errors and a lot of "SERVFAIL" errors in named.log for various sites. I don't know if the quer

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Eric
Based on that I'm pretty confident you can remove this as being a general DNS server issue. I would not attempt to even change the configuration in bind at this point as to not introduce more potential changes into your env as doing those tests will have mostly validated the DNS server is worki

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Crist Clark
If you’re hobbled by Windows (and ones five years past EOL), I prefer to fire up PowerShell and use Resolve-DnsName. Also include the -DnsOnly flag. Have you been looking at the BIND logs? Also, a BIND installation isn’t going to mess with resolv.conf. That’s typically managed by the distro’s net

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread bind9
I also suspect it's not BIND, but how the OS is going about resolving names. Test your running BIND by using dig (please, not nslookup) @127.0.0.1 [1] for domains you think you are having a problem with. Should it be @127.0.0.1 or should it be the machine's IP on which the DNS server is runnin

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread bind9
From the instance with bind running, can you query both your defined forwarders? Does it work consistently for a variety of domains? dig @1.1.1.1 isc.org dig @8.8.8.8 isc.org Yes, it does. The above two commands work as well as several other domains I tried, and the response has been immedia

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Lyle Giese via bind-users
I noted that it appears your internal network is 123.123.123.0/24.  This ip range is assigned globally to a Chinese ISP.  This may not be a good idea. I agree that using forwarding is not necessary and may introduce some issues. And yes, you need to stop using nslookup and use dig instead.

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Michael De Roover
On Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:35:28 CEST Greg Choules via bind-users wrote: > Third, use tcpdump to capture port 53. Do this to a file, then look at it > offline in Wireshark. (Michael just beat me to that tip). Check how queries > are arriving into BIND and what it does with them. Particularly look

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Hi. I also suspect it's not BIND, but how the OS is going about resolving names. Test your running BIND by using dig (please, not nslookup) @127.0.0.1 for domains you think you are having a problem with. Also check /etc/resolv.conf and see what address(es) is/are listed as nameservers. Third, use

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Eric
I get a feeling this is going to be less of a bind issue, and more so some other configuration issue(s). >From the instance with bind running, can you query both your defined >forwarders? Does it work consistently for a variety of domains? dig @1.1.1.1 isc.org dig @8.8.8.8 isc.org >From the cl

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Michael De Roover
On Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:18:17 CEST Michael De Roover wrote: [...] I do remember writing a reply that got lost while drafting my previous email, but I don't remember what exactly it is. I do, however, remember its contents, somewhat. I'll just rewrite it in reply to.. this, I guess. You'll wa

Re: My Introduction and current issues -

2025-05-09 Thread Michael De Roover
On Saturday, 10 May 2025 00:58:25 CEST bi...@clearviz.biz wrote: > Howdy all!. My name is Arnold, and I'm new to both Bind9 and to the > Bind user's list. I'm hoping to contribute my findings on the use of > Bind9. in the future but, for now, I need some help in getting my 1st > install of Bind 9

Re: bind sends back server failure when local cache expired ( glue record)

2025-05-06 Thread Florian Schlums
Hello Panagiotis Thank you for your reply and I apologize for my late response. I was away on vacation. I was just wondering why the resolver reacts immediately with a server failure and then continues the recursive resolution in the background. In the meantime, the client has received an error

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread Mark Andrews
I don’t think there was anything wrong with your servers. The log messages indicate problems with the authoritative servers. In theory authoritative DNS servers should be able to serve content until the zone content expires. They should be able to be powered off then rebooted and continue to se

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread Mark Andrews
Also don’t use +short if you want to see the NSID. From my corner of the internet I get the following. % dig +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net ; <<>> DiG 9.21.3-dev <<>> +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUE

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread Michael Richardson
Ondřej Surý wrote: >> dig +short +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net > This needs to be this: ^^^ p> You missed @ and thus you asked your local resolver. Yes, you are right. Bad on me I actually have a script that does this, but I transcribed it for posting. I get: obiwan-

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread vincent
Thank you, Ondřej! I'm getting the same answer from all my hosts: # dig +short +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net "366568643ba5103a1f441fbc3c502ed2eaa0b3d9" Vincent On Thu, 1 May 2025, Ondřej Surý wrote: dig +short +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net This needs to

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread vincent
On Thu, 1 May 2025, Michael Richardson wrote: Rob McEwen via bind-users wrote: > I strongly suspect that this was caused (even if indirectly?) by the MASSIVE > and many-hours-long power outages in Europe, mainly in Spain and > Portugal. That started on April 28, 2025, at approximat

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread vincent
Hi Michael, Thank you so much for chiming in! My guess is that something is in the way, and it's probably trying to attack you (or your ISP) with fake replies, but it's doing a bad job. When I do: dig +short +nsid version.bind. txt ch dns4.p08.nsone.net I get: "9.21.2-1+0~20241120.131+

Re: Massive increase of SERVFAIL after April 28th 2025.

2025-05-01 Thread Ondřej Surý
> dig +short +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net This needs to be this: ^^^ You missed @ and thus you asked your local resolver. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal w

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