Sorry let me try again. I missed your other questions...
On 11/05/2025 17:17, Fred Morris wrote:
BIND insists on addresses bound to interfaces (at least, that's my
contention, based on experience yesterday, which may or may not
reflect some reality which has been manufactured today).
resolved uses a loopback address which is not bound to an interface
(at least that's my experience, which may or may not reflect some
reality which has been manufactured today).
Nick, I'll ask before the fold: how do I explicitly bind 127.0.0.53 to
the lo interface before systemd starts?
Not sure why you're asking. Systemd does this without you having to
explicitly do anything.
You know what? I'd like some features too. But I don't go around
binding to addresses which are not bound to interfaces. Never. I just
don't do that. Venturing close to the "political" line: I don't see
anything in BIND which even hints at a whiff of dbus.
...
From where I sit it looks like it sits on an unbound address to shim
into established, conformant, admittedly baroque and crenellated
mechanisms for managing name resolution... I actually laughed when you
mentioned NSS (thanks)... while staying as catastrophically
inscrutable as wiring the red wire to ground; and that this works to
its advantage, making it difficult to remove by people who would
never, ever imagine that core software would abrogate established
contractual mechanisms without copious documentation... and that the
best we would do would be apologaeia from the likes of Fred Morris or
Nick Tait!
...
libc. Granted, your mileage may vary with your implementation, tire
inflation, RAM color and CPU orientation... but charm never matters.
Rhetorically, how much does it take to get your stack explicitly
unloved? I don't know exactly, we don't have a lot of data points.
https://security.opensuse.org/2025/05/07/deepin-desktop-removal.html
As far as I know, BIND has never chosen "DNS eins" as a molehill to
die on.
Like I said, I wasn't trying to start a holy war, and I wasn't saying
that systemd-resolved is good or bad. I just wanted to correct a few
misconceptions, so that people are provided with accurate information
and can make their own informed choices. :-)
Nick.
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