Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-31 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12/30/19 12:07 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: of course. On 30.12.19 14:30, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: The idea of an ISP telling me how to configure my DNS server causes indigestion, possibly severe. My registrar, the parent domain owner / operator, doesn't get to tell me how

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On 12/30/19 7:26 PM, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: On 12/30/19 6:22 PM, N6Ghost wrote: but generally you acquire  IP space in blocks not single address's. and those blocks are what you use to build your internal and external reverse zone files. Agreed. But you wouldn't be using RFC 231

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/30/19 6:22 PM, N6Ghost wrote: but generally you acquire IP space in blocks not single address's. and those blocks are what you use to build your internal and external reverse zone files. Agreed. But you wouldn't be using RFC 2317 Classless IN-ADDR.ARPA delegation because the reverse D

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On 12/30/19 1:13 PM, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: On 12/30/19 1:34 PM, N6Ghost wrote: 1: is the IP space delegated or not? What is delegated IP space in this context? Are you referring to a separate prefix that is routed to the customer? This ref to the IP space that you OWN. In lar

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On Monday, December 30, 2019 1:15:48 PM PST Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: > On 12/30/19 1:42 PM, N6Ghost wrote: > > delegations are always by block... ie /20, /24, /25 etc > > I feel like there is term conflation. > > To me: > · Delegations are DNS and are done on the dot boundary. >

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/30/19 12:07 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: of course. The idea of an ISP telling me how to configure my DNS server causes indigestion, possibly severe. My registrar, the parent domain owner / operator, doesn't get to tell me how to configure my DNS server. The only thing they get

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/30/19 1:42 PM, N6Ghost wrote: delegations are always by block... ie /20, /24, /25 etc I feel like there is term conflation. To me: · Delegations are DNS and are done on the dot boundary. · Routes are done on the block boundary. The two can be related, but quite distinct. -- Gr

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/30/19 1:34 PM, N6Ghost wrote: 1: is the IP space delegated or not? What is delegated IP space in this context? Are you referring to a separate prefix that is routed to the customer? -- Grant. . . . unix || die smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature __

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On Friday, December 27, 2019 12:22:55 PM PST Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 27.12.19 um 21:06 schrieb Grant Taylor via bind-users: > >> if the ISP is willing to do and if you really own a large enough range > >> that it makes sense is a different question, for just 3 random > >> addresses it is unlikely

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On Friday, December 27, 2019 9:49:10 AM PST Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 27.12.19 um 16:58 schrieb Grant Taylor via bind-users: > > On 12/27/19 7:04 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> they configure it for fetching from your servers. > > > > I do object to this part of the statement. > > > > Thi

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On Monday, December 30, 2019 11:07:36 AM PST Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >>I think that it should be either change local DNS or call ISP to > >>change it, not both at once. Having both usually creates/hides > >>different kinds of problems. > > > >Yes, ideally the configuration lives in one pla

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread N6Ghost
On Friday, December 27, 2019 10:01:31 AM PST Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 27.12.19 um 18:58 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: > The only thing that I saw was a slip in that there is something > outside the local DNS server that needs to be configured for reverse > DNS. > >> > >> Am 27.12

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
I think that it should be either change local DNS or call ISP to change it, not both at once. Having both usually creates/hides different kinds of problems. Yes, ideally the configuration lives in one place. Multi-master is always problematic. Particularly for day to day operations. Initi

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/27/19 3:43 PM, Paul Kosinski via bind-users wrote: P.S. Unfortunately our 2 current IPs, although adjacent, are not /31, and thus would require 2 delegations There's always going to be at least one record, be it an NS for delegation or CNAME for 2317, for each IP that's not being delegat

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Paul Kosinski via bind-users
I was pleased that I was able to get our two (successive) ISPs to set up reverse DNS for our small number of IP addresses, and each twice to change them when they moved us to moved us to new IP ranges (due to the IPv4 crunch). It never even occurred to me that it might be possible to have them dele

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/27/19 1:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: nobody out there will delegate single /255 ip's I've had multiple different ISP's delegate reverse DNS for single IPs (/32 or /128) multiple times. Some used RFC 2317 Classless IN-ADDR.ARPA Delegation, others used standard delegation. Some ~> many

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.12.19 um 21:06 schrieb Grant Taylor via bind-users: >> if the ISP is willing to do and if you really own a large enough range >> that it makes sense is a different question, for just 3 random >> addresses it is unlikely to happen > > Agreed. > > But I will still ask the ISP to delegate t

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/27/19 10:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: in the real world they just delegate the reverse-zone to your nameserver like it#s done for our /24 range for years Please clarify what the "reverse-zone" is that you're talking about. Is it "246.2.186.in-addr.arpa." or "17.246.2.186.in-addr.arpa."?

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/27/19 10:48 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I think that it should be either change local DNS or call ISP to change it, not both at once. Having both usually creates/hides different kinds of problems. Yes, ideally the configuration lives in one place. Multi-master is always problema

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.12.19 um 18:58 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: The only thing that I saw was a slip in that there is something outside the local DNS server that needs to be configured for reverse DNS. > >> Am 27.12.19 um 18:48 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: >>> I think that it should be e

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
The only thing that I saw was a slip in that there is something outside the local DNS server that needs to be configured for reverse DNS. Am 27.12.19 um 18:48 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: I think that it should be either change local DNS or call ISP to change it, not both at once.  Having b

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.12.19 um 18:48 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: >> The only thing that I saw was a slip in that there is something >> outside the local DNS server that needs to be configured for reverse DNS. > > I think that it should be either change local DNS or call ISP to change it, > not both at once.

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.12.19 um 16:58 schrieb Grant Taylor via bind-users: > On 12/27/19 7:04 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> they configure it for fetching from your servers. > > I do object to this part of the statement. > > This seems to imply that the ISP is a secondary DNS server and doing > zone tra

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12/27/19 7:04 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: there's obviously something broken in this setup. You don't have to call the ISP if the reverse DNS changes. On 27.12.19 08:58, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: Why do you say that? What do you see that's broken in the OP's configuration?

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/27/19 7:04 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: there's obviously something broken in this setup. You don't have to call the ISP if the reverse DNS changes. Why do you say that? What do you see that's broken in the OP's configuration? I personally didn't see anything broken. Hence why r

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.12.19 00:27, Edouard Guigné wrote: I have forgotten this point, rdns is done by ISP... The same problem occured 2 years ago, and I have to call them to restart it. there's obviously something broken in this setup. You don't have to call the ISP if the reverse DNS changes. Either they s

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-26 Thread Edouard Guigné
2019 00:06:03 -0300 (GFT) Objet: Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers On 12/26/19 7:48 PM, Edouard Guigné wrote: > I have set a bind server for my domain "pasteur-cayenne.fr" which is > primary authorative zone server for this domain. "pasteur-ca

Re: Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-26 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/26/19 7:48 PM, Edouard Guigné wrote: I have set a bind server for my domain "pasteur-cayenne.fr" which is primary authorative zone server for this domain. "pasteur-cayenne.fr" and "… this domain." are imperative. Secondary servers for this domain are set to orange (ns6.oleane.net and ns

Problem to transfer reverse zone DNS on secondary DNS servers

2019-12-26 Thread Edouard Guigné
Hello dear Bind Users, I am writing to you, expecting debugging my situation, that I did not succeeded in resolve by myself (after too much hours on google). I have set a bind server for my domain "pasteur-cayenne.fr" which is primary authorative zone server for this domain. Secondary server