Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-25 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Carsten Strotmann wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Chris Buxton writes: > >> I’d bet that the package from Men & Mice includes this script or an >> equivalent workaround. When I wrote the original script I wrote about >> above, I worked at Men & Mice. > > Your script or th

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-25 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:27 PM, LuKreme wrote: > > Right, but Apple did this by having their compile of bind start listening on > 127.0.0.1 and then prodding it once the network was up and the IP address was > available. Since Apple doesn't take this extra step, you'd need to tell > launchd to

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-25 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:38 PM, LuKreme wrote: > > In the launchd plist do you have something like > I finally got around to testing both of these. > > NetworkState > > > Had no effect. > or maybe > > inetdCompatibility > > Wait > > > Wouldn’t even start. Repeatedly (about 150

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-22 Thread Larry Stone
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, LuKreme wrote: Right, but Apple did this by having their compile of bind start listening on 127.0.0.1 and then prodding it once the network was up and the IP address was available. Since Apple doesn't take this extra step, you'd need to tell launchd to wait for the Network

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-22 Thread LuKreme
On 22 Jan 2014, at 05:37 , Larry Stone wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:38 PM, LuKreme wrote: > >> >> On 18 Jan 2014, at 06:52 , Larry Stone wrote: >> >>> That is not the problem. >> >> In the launchd plist do you have something like >> >> >> NetworkState >> >> >> >> or maybe >> >

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-22 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:38 PM, LuKreme wrote: > > On 18 Jan 2014, at 06:52 , Larry Stone wrote: > >> That is not the problem. > > In the launchd plist do you have something like > > > NetworkState > > > > or maybe > > inetdCompatibility > > Wait > > > > to tell the system not t

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-21 Thread LuKreme
On 18 Jan 2014, at 06:52 , Larry Stone wrote: > That is not the problem. In the launchd plist do you have something like NetworkState or maybe inetdCompatibility Wait to tell the system not to start bind until after the network is up? -- IT IS NOT YET MIDNIGHT? 'I shouldn'

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-21 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Carsten Strotmann wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Chris Buxton writes: > >> I’d bet that the package from Men & Mice includes this script or an >> equivalent workaround. When I wrote the original script I wrote about >> above, I worked at Men & Mice. > > Your script or th

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-21 Thread Carsten Strotmann
Hi Chris, Chris Buxton writes: > I’d bet that the package from Men & Mice includes this script or an > equivalent workaround. When I wrote the original script I wrote about > above, I worked at Men & Mice. Your script or the sleep timer is not in the package anymore, but maybe it should be. I d

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-20 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Chris Buxton wrote: >> Problem: This morning, by happenstance, both were rebooted a few minutes >> apart and suddenly, nobody could access anything. Finally figured out that >> named on both was not responding (queries timed out). Killed named (which >> was immedi

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-20 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jan 17, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Larry Stone wrote: > Background: I have been using my Macintosh as a server… […] > Problem: This morning, by happenstance, both were rebooted a few minutes > apart and suddenly, nobody could access anything. Finally figured out that > named on both was not respond

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-18 Thread Eduardo Bonsi
;bind-users@lists.isc.org" Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9 Eduardo - You’re not really reading what the problem is. When named is started as part of system boot, it is running but non-respon

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-18 Thread Larry Stone
re-start! > > > > > > > -- > Eduardo Bonsi > System/Network Admin > BEARTCOMMUNICATIONS > beart...@pacbell.net > > From: Larry Stone > To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:52 AM > Subject: Re: Non-resp

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-18 Thread Eduardo Bonsi
t; > -- > Eduardo Bonsi > System Admin > BEARTCOMMUNICATIONS > beart...@pacbell.net > > From: Larry Stone > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 6:45 PM > Subject: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X > Mavericks 1

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-18 Thread Larry Stone
; BEARTCOMMUNICATIONS > beart...@pacbell.net > > From: Larry Stone > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 6:45 PM > Subject: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X > Mavericks 10.9 > > Background: I have been using my Macin

Re: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-17 Thread Eduardo Bonsi
Admin BEARTCOMMUNICATIONS beart...@pacbell.net From: Larry Stone To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 6:45 PM Subject: Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9 Background: I have been using my Macintosh

Non-responsive name servers when started during boot on OS X Mavericks 10.9

2014-01-17 Thread Larry Stone
Background: I have been using my Macintosh as a server running the client version of OS X (not OS X Server) for many years. Until 10.9 (Mavericks), Apple provided BIND and it worked just fine. My servers were internal only providing behind-NAT local addresses for the local network as well as cac