Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-27 Thread Kevin Darcy
John Wobus wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Ram Akuka wrote: Is there’s any way I can encrypt the zone files in the slave server, that way no one can have access to the actual zone data beside the master server. (if for example someone will hack to the slave DNS he won’t have the zones data)

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-27 Thread John Wobus
On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Ram Akuka wrote: Is there’s any way I can encrypt the zone files in the slave server, that way no one can have access to the actual zone data beside the master server. (if for example someone will hack to the slave DNS he won’t have the zones data). No. __

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Frank Pikelner
You can build a tunnel between the servers using openvpn to secure zone transfers. May also need policy based routing dependig on what else you do. If you are doing zone transfers across a network you control and have concerns about exposing data on it such as dns zone transfers, you may wa

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Ram Ak uka writes: > 2009/3/25 Alan Clegg : > > Ram Akuka wrote: > > > >> Is there's any way I can encrypt the zone transfer date (without using > >> any third-party encryption tool)? > > > > Why exactly do you want to do this? > > > > DNS data is NOT PROTECTED DATA. > > > > As long a

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Dew
IPSEC really isn't too onerous between machines with static IP addresses just a thought. 2009/3/25 Ram Akuka : > 2009/3/25 Alan Clegg : >> Ram Akuka wrote: >> >>> Is there's any way I can encrypt the zone transfer date (without using >>> any third-party encryption tool)? >> >> Why exactly do y

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Ram Akuka
2009/3/25 Alan Clegg : > Ram Akuka wrote: > >> Is there's any way I can encrypt the zone transfer date (without using >> any third-party encryption tool)? > > Why exactly do you want to do this? > > DNS data is NOT PROTECTED DATA. > > As long as queries and responses are permitted in the clear (whi

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Clegg
Ram Akuka wrote: > Is there's any way I can encrypt the zone transfer date (without using > any third-party encryption tool)? Why exactly do you want to do this? DNS data is NOT PROTECTED DATA. As long as queries and responses are permitted in the clear (which is the way DNS works), you are onl

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Ram Akuka
Alan, Is there's any way I can encrypt the zone transfer date (without using any third-party encryption tool)? Thanks, -- Ram 2009/3/25 Alan Clegg : > Ram Akuka wrote: >> but encrypting the file system won't do the work here. >> i agree that storing the key and the encrypted data on the same >>

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Clegg
Ram Akuka wrote: > but encrypting the file system won't do the work here. > i agree that storing the key and the encrypted data on the same > machine is useless in security terms. that why i'm looking for a build > in solution . > is there's any way the slave server can save the zone in format > di

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Dew
So you want to store data on the slaves which will not be accessible to an attacker who has root privileges on the same slave? This looks difficult. One possibility is to replace bind's operations on the slave's zone file (the loading and saving of data) with a hack to bind which stores the data

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Ram Akuka
Thanks Cris, but encrypting the file system won't do the work here. i agree that storing the key and the encrypted data on the same machine is useless in security terms. that why i'm looking for a build in solution . is there's any way the slave server can save the zone in format diffent then clear

Re: "stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Dew
You could use the ecrypt fs for the location of the zone data - it would require a passphrase when bind starts up on the slave - this could cause trouble if the slave crashes. In general there is NO way of having encrypted data on a machine AND having the keys on that same machine AND making it 10

"stealth master" DNS Security

2009-03-25 Thread Ram Akuka
Hi, I want to design a DNS system for secure authoritative server. I’ll use one master server to store the data zone and use zone transfer mechanism for the 2 public slave servers (which will defined as masters in the internet). That way I’ll update and backup only server. I using TSIG for secure z