Re: RPZ and www.rackspace.com

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Andrews
They don't fix it because they are not usually aware of it. The vast bulk of the queries against load balancers are A and queries and long as these don't return NXDOMAIN they don't see operational problems. Servfail for is not a issue for them as it doesn't impact the A lookup which is

Re: Reply Code 0x8083 vs 0x8080

2014-05-30 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
I got to work with the app owners today debugging this problem.  One way to get the DNS server to return the list of root servers is to do a non-recursive (+norec) query for a non-existent domain.  Turns out this particular app does non-recursive queries.  The app itself does a single Windows sy

Re: RPZ and www.rackspace.com

2014-05-30 Thread John Miller
It's surprising that more organizations don't fix this--it can be a serious DoS vulnerability if the record is important enough. Anyone know of tools that, given a zone or a set of labels, will test for this behavior? John On 05/30/2014 11:42 AM, David A. Evans wrote: To my questio

Re: RPZ and www.rackspace.com

2014-05-30 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 01:44 +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > Because NS queries are not common with normal DNS lookups. For > some reason people that deploy load balancers think they don't need > to fix issues like this. Send something other than a A rec

Re: RPZ and www.rackspace.com

2014-05-30 Thread David A. Evans
To my question of how many more are lurking out there. It looks like quite a few. I am not sure we are going to be able to continue with RPZ's and NSDNAME's. xserv.dell.com is my newest main stream web site having the issue. I is behaving the same way as www.rackspa

Re: Reply Code 0x8083 vs 0x8080

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <1401433477.99469.yahoomail...@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, Jiann- Ming Su writes: > > > > > On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:34 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > In message > <1401424053.51486.yahoomail...@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, > > Jiann- > > Ming Su writes: > >> > >> > >> Looki

Re: Reply Code 0x8083 vs 0x8080

2014-05-30 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:34 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > In message <1401424053.51486.yahoomail...@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, > Jiann- > Ming Su writes: >> >> >> Looking through the traces of the NXDomain vs NoError responses.  The >> NoError response includes the list of the Int