Re: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread WC -Sx- Jones
Thomas Bätzler wrote: And the fact that they want to sell Safari subscriptions has nothing to do with it, right? ;-) They are in business. Creating, Oraginzing, and Maintaining Content is the SECOND largest expense a company will need to budget. Personnel training being the top consideration; if t

Re: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread WC -Sx- Jones
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: So, no more nice CDs. Just dead trees. Lots of em. I think it is unfortunate that no more CDs will be created -- but then again once a book is printed or a CD is burned: "It is Out-of-date" "Living" on-line media (like safari et al) is the only way to keep ahead of the

RE: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread Thomas Bätzler
Randall wrote: > In fact, let me take this one step further. I've been told recently > (although I might be misremembering) that O'Reilly will publish NO > MORE CDs because of rampant piracy. And the fact that they want to sell Safari subscriptions has nothing to do with it, right? ;-) Thomas -

Re: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread WilliamGunther
In a message dated 4/8/2004 7:49:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Holger> Holger Schell > >Randal> Sir, how do you sleep at night? You personally offend me now. >Randal> You've just taken money DIRECTLY out of my pocket. You deserve the money too. You've helped a lot of p

[OT] Re: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread Morbus Iff
>In fact, let me take this one step further. I've been told recently >(although I might be misremembering) that O'Reilly will publish NO >MORE CDs because of rampant piracy. Last I heard, Safari was going to make it *easier* for you to read books offline, which sounds like they're just removing t

Re: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Holger> Holger Schell Randal> Sir, how do you sleep at night? You personally offend me now. Randal> You've just taken money DIRECTLY out of my pocket. In fact, let me take this one step further. I've been told recently (although

Re: AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Holger" == Holger Schell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Holger> http://[deleted]/Oreilly/ Oooh yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I've just reported those MAJOR COPYRIGHT PIRATES to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's to hoping that they get shut down very soon now. Holger> Best regards, Holger> Ho

AW: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-08 Thread Schell, Holger
PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von zentara Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. April 2004 12:38 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 23:18:48 +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Sheat) wrote: >On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 04:21:16PM -0500, Ananda Stevens wrote: >> So...

RE: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-07 Thread u235sentinel
I started with the "Learning Perl 3rd Edition" and have moved to "Perl Object, References and Modules" both published by Oreilly. Been working with Perl code for a few months now. I also have purchased the "Perl Cookbook". There are many great examples how to do something useful. Great books!

RE: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-07 Thread McMahon, Chris
I've got some > familiarity with other languages -- I've had to learn to read simple > C/C++, Java, and assembly language code (movl.org, anyone?) -- but no > significant experience doing programming. > > So...what book(s) would you suggest for the relative newbie > with a clue? I st

Re: Antwort: Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner ['securiQ.Watchdog':

2004-04-07 Thread Peter Scott
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manfred Beilfuss) writes: >Where did you learn to use strict ??? > >Is there a book or url who discusses any how-to's and eventually some >pro's and con's. > >Starting with some of the book's always mentioned in question's like this, >having progr

Re: Antwort: Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner ['securiQ.Watchdog': überprüft]

2004-04-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Manfred" == Manfred Beilfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Manfred> Is there a book or url who discusses any how-to's and eventually some Manfred> pro's and con's. Learning Perl, 3rd edition (Randal and Tom *Phoenix*) does. Manfred> But none of them work with use strict. Nor do I understand

Re: Antwort: Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner ['securiQ.Watchdog': ?berpr?ft]

2004-04-07 Thread Robin Sheat
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 01:32:23PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where did you learn to use strict ??? I don't remember, I think it may have been from lurking on this list. Basically from what I've found, if strict gives you errors, then you are doing something wrong, or at least unusual and

Antwort: Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner ['securiQ.Watchdog': überprüft]

2004-04-07 Thread Manfred . Beilfuss
Robin Sheat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]An: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-07 Thread Robin Sheat
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 04:21:16PM -0500, Ananda Stevens wrote: > So...what book(s) would you suggest for the relative newbie with a clue? When I wanted to learn Perl, I could only afford one book, so I got 'The Perl Programming Language'. It was OK to learn from given I had plenty of experience in

Re: book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-07 Thread Gabor Urban
From: Ananda Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: book suggestion for atypical beginner Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:21:16 -0500 > I'm hoping someone has a suggestion for a book that would suit me. I > find books that assume no programming knowledge to be slow-moving and > o

book suggestion for atypical beginner

2004-04-07 Thread Ananda Stevens
I'm hoping someone has a suggestion for a book that would suit me. I find books that assume no programming knowledge to be slow-moving and often boring. But the next step up seems to be the type of book that assumes proficiency with one or more other languages. I've got some familiarity with ot