Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2011-01-01 Thread Raymond Wan
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 03:32, Uri Guttman wrote: >> "RW" == Raymond Wan writes: >  RW> Saying the other tutorials are garbage is quite harsh and a bit >  RW> disrespectful to the authors who presumably meant well and didn't do >  RW> it to sabotage Perl's reputation.  Maybe they aren't helpfu

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread Erez Schatz
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 12:35:37 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: On the other hand, most of my posts (and those of most other active members of the lists) were replies for people asking for help, while trying to be helpful. And since I subscribed I've posted much more posts than you. Why do you f

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread Chap Harrison
that the context is obvious. :-) > > Octavian > > - Original Message - > From: "Chap Harrison" > To: "Perl Beginners" > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread Uri Guttman
> "RW" == Raymond Wan writes: RW> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 13:28, Uri Guttman wrote: >>> "NA" == Nathan Arthur writes: >>  NA> from books/tutorials, from this list, and by just writing it.  I spent >>  NA> a bunch of time with online tutorials and books before really getting >>

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread Octavian Rasnita
Happy new years to all of you too! Sorry for top-post. I think that the context is obvious. :-) Octavian - Original Message - From: "Chap Harrison" To: "Perl Beginners" Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Cont

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread Chap Harrison
Love conquers all - even those thorny, iconoclastic Perl gurus! Happy New Year. Chap (oops, sorry for the top-post ;-) On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:30 AM, jeff pang wrote: > 2010/12/31 Raymond Wan : > >> >> If we leave it to just the people who "contribute and help", then it's >> no longer a list f

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread jeff pang
2010/12/31 Raymond Wan : > > If we leave it to just the people who "contribute and help", then it's > no longer a list for beginners.  It's for the contributors to post > among themselves. > Right. Anyway Happy New Year all Perl gurus and beginners! Regards. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-31 Thread Raymond Wan
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 13:28, Uri Guttman wrote: >> "NA" == Nathan Arthur writes: >  NA> from books/tutorials, from this list, and by just writing it.  I spent >  NA> a bunch of time with online tutorials and books before really getting >  NA> started, so most of my interest in this list is

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "NA" == Nathan Arthur writes: NA> First, some background - I'm a long-time programmer, primarily in NA> java, secondarily in PHP and shell script. I have started working NA> with a new team who uses perl, so I've had to learn it - from them, NA> from books/tutorials, from this list

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread Nathan Arthur
Hello, I have been lurking on this list for a few months, and I thought perhaps you'd all like the perspective of a 'newbie' about this issue. First, some background - I'm a long-time programmer, primarily in java, secondarily in PHP and shell script. I have started working with a new team who u

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread Raymond Wan
Hi all, On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 19:35, Shlomi Fish wrote: >> If we take off the parts where you just rip through >> people's style, platform, or design choices, or reprimand them for not >> following what you consider to be the One True Way of writing emails, >> the number is good, but not that

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread Mark Voltz
Shlomi, I'm new to Perl, but I perceive your posts to be among the most well thought out opinions/instructions on this list and appreciate your willingness to help. Certainly, your comments are pointed and clear, but you consistently reference coding styles and idioms that seem to be agreed upo

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread vishesh kumar
Dear all Without involving in this dicussion deeply , i just want to mention my view . As a newbie in perl as well in this forum i found Shlomi Fish answers very useful and to the point. So i think blaming spamming short of thing is not right. Thanks On 12/30/10, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On W

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 29 Dec 2010 15:11:22 jeff pang wrote: > 2010/12/29 Erez Schatz : > > Since most of your posts are related to directing people to your site, > > I'd say we are about even. In more tightly-moderated lists you'd be > > banned for spamming. > > I agree with this point. > Directing everyon

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-30 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Erez, On Wednesday 29 Dec 2010 09:37:44 Erez Schatz wrote: > On 12/28/2010 01:04 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hello Erez (and all), > > > > On Tuesday 28 Dec 2010 11:01:40 Erez Schatz wrote: > >> This is so blatantly OT it shouldn't be on this list. > > > > Maybe my impression is a bit biased,

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-29 Thread William Muriithi
On 2010-12-29, at 8:11 AM, jeff pang wrote: > 2010/12/29 Erez Schatz : > >> Since most of your posts are related to directing people to your site, >> I'd say we are about even. In more tightly-moderated lists you'd be >> banned for spamming. > > I agree with this point. > Directing everyone to

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-29 Thread jeff pang
2010/12/29 Erez Schatz : > Since most of your posts are related to directing people to your site, > I'd say we are about even. In more tightly-moderated lists you'd be > banned for spamming. I agree with this point. Directing everyone to a personal site is always considered rude. Regards. -- T

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-28 Thread Erez Schatz
On 12/28/2010 01:04 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hello Erez (and all), > > On Tuesday 28 Dec 2010 11:01:40 Erez Schatz wrote: >> This is so blatantly OT it shouldn't be on this list. >> > > Maybe my impression is a bit biased, but it seems to me that most of your > posts to this list are replies to

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hello Erez (and all), On Tuesday 28 Dec 2010 11:01:40 Erez Schatz wrote: > This is so blatantly OT it shouldn't be on this list. > Maybe my impression is a bit biased, but it seems to me that most of your posts to this list are replies to my posts where you criticise them (and not in a particu

Re: [OT] New Document: "How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"

2010-12-28 Thread Erez Schatz
This is so blatantly OT it shouldn't be on this list. -- Erez Observations, not opinions. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/