Hi Erez,

On Wednesday 29 Dec 2010 09:37:44 Erez Schatz wrote:
> On 12/28/2010 01:04 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hello Erez (and all),
> > 
> > On Tuesday 28 Dec 2010 11:01:40 Erez Schatz wrote:
> >> This is so blatantly OT it shouldn't be on this list.
> > 
> > Maybe my impression is a bit biased, but it seems to me that most of your
> > posts to this list are replies to my posts where you criticise them (and
> > not in a particularly constructive way.). On the other hand, most of my
> > posts (and those of most other active members of the lists) were replies
> > for people asking for help, while trying to be helpful. And since I
> > subscribed I've posted much more posts than you.
> 
> Since most of your posts are related to directing people to your site,
> I'd say we are about even. In more tightly-moderated lists you'd be
> banned for spamming. 

Why do you feel that pointing people to relevant resources to the question at 
hand on http://perl-begin.org/ (which I assume is what you mean by "your 
site") constitutes spamming? And why do you think that this fact protects you 
from my criticism of you?

> If we take off the parts where you just rip through
> people's style, platform, or design choices, or reprimand them for not
> following what you consider to be the One True Way of writing emails,
> the number is good, but not that hight.

I admit that I tend to comment on people's style, design choices or code 
issues a lot. Other posters here also do that a lot. Normally, I do that 
because such problems should be avoided in the future, and because I'm 
reviewing the entire code and commenting on everything I find (which may 
include some fixes to bugs). Do you feel that when people post to this 
list, one should not comment on the bad elements exhibited in their code?

Regarding my E-mail netiquette comments, can you point to an email where I 
commented about that, and did not write a Perl-related answer to the question 
asked?

> 
> > Now before I configure my mail filters to filter out all your posts to
> > beginners@perl.org because they tend to make me irritated,
> 
> Feel free.
> 
> > I ask you to change
> > your ways. Can you please not try to criticise me here and instead focus
> > on helping people with their problems? You are being venomous and
> > achieve nothing of value.
> 
> Sorry, the world just don't revolve around you, and people don't need to
> conform to your ways. You have a problem with my writing, forward it to
> the list moderator, or filter me out.

You are right that the world does not revolve around me, and that I may often 
like being the centre of attention. Before I resort to filtering you out, 
which I'd rather not do, will you consider what I said?

> 
> > And you've got to practise what you preach.
> 
> I am. This has nothing to do with "Perl beginners" and everything to do
> with other, probably more guided lists.

That's good.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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