Re: [BangPypers] how to delete base class attribute

>>fine, but isn't there any way to hide few function of base class into >>derived one??? I didn't get what is meant by hiding? You can override the function/method of base class in sub class. In that method, you can modify the behaviour for subclass or raise an exception or simply include 'pass'.

Re: [BangPypers] nested list question

I read from Python 2.6.3 docs that,copied from chm " Note that filter(function, iterable) is equivalent to [item for item in iterable if function(item)] if function is not None and [item for item in iterable if item] if function is None." Since they said *equivalent* ,i thought both transfo

Re: [BangPypers] nested list question

>map (function, list1, list2) where in function you can create your desired >list. List comprehensions are preferred to map and filter functions.In fact, filter is a syntactic sugar to list comprehension. Regards, Srini T. --When you are playing cricket, you should hit the ball out of the gro

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] David Goodger is our keynote speaker

Wow!! gr8.. Regards, Srini T. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Non tech. meta talk at PyCon India

+1 I am very much keen on this. Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] designing programs

>>well, we seemed have almost reached a consensus - now all we need to decide >>is >>the pros and cons of pen versus pencil. Well Kenneth, that's a personal decision.My best suggestion is ,use whatever you are comfortable with. Your goal matters not the means.:) Regards, Srini T. ___

Re: [BangPypers] Facebook Event for PyCon India 2010

+1 for this... Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] missing something

A small correction, >>I am not sure about this..but probably python finds function objects with >>method name * and with out including method parameters.* Regards, Srini T. --Every day is a school day for me ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@

Re: [BangPypers] missing something

Here goes my 2 cents, What you are trying to do is "method overloading" ,in static language terms. This doesn't exist in python.I am not sure about this..but probably python finds function objects with method name. If anybody clarifies on this topic,it's worth while to learn. anybody? Regards, S

Re: [BangPypers] duck typing -A random thought

FYI, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3062701/why-dont-we-require-interfaces-in-dynamic-languages A good discussion though, thanks for all who answered. Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list

Re: [BangPypers] duck typing -A random thought

>>Well, actually your interface does exist (if my object exposes the same set of methods as an instance of String, then it is a String), This is what i am referring ,duck typing. >>The concept of an interface exists in all OO languages I've used, even when there was no keyword 'interface'. In m

Re: [BangPypers] duck typing -A random thought

Dear Senthil, +sys.maxint for the sheer effort you took for me to write. :) Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: [BangPypers] duck typing -A random thought

I am really enjoying your book.Thanks a lot for writing it. :) Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

[BangPypers] duck typing -A random thought

is it just because of duck typing we don't require a concept of interfaces(like in Java and C#) in python? i think so.what you say? Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.or

Re: [BangPypers] biopython

Haha... We don't have internet(usually), i manually typed it thinking something else. it usually happens with us programmers. Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://m

Re: [BangPypers] biopython

>i am still waiting for some help. You seem to be posting question after question with out even trying to solve them( i can count 10 in three or four days on varying topics) in Bangpypers and comp.lang.python,literally spamming these lists.You better learn basics first , grab a book of "Lea

Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India 2010 CFP open!

> Thanks Srini. Do help spread the word and get more proposals. A conference >is only as good as the talks presented. Yes, i did ,Sent mail to all of my friends. Regards, Srini T. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India 2010 CFP open!

Way to go folks , can't wait to meet you all there.. Regards, Srini T. --The real failure is failing to try for success. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

>Getting an application up and running with a few >clicks of a mouse has the same effect as eating junk food. Your >appetite goes away, you can claim that you've eaten something but >there's close to zero nourishment. I love this analogy.gr8. +1 for all of your points. Regards, Srini T. --The r

Re: [BangPypers] PyPDF to read hindi

correct me. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft@python.org on behalf of AADITYA SRIRAM Sent: Wed 6/2/2010 2:22 PM To: bangpypers@python.org Subject: [BangPypers] PyPDF to read h

Re: [BangPypers] What are the best python books , you have read.

Ah! I never checked out that link. thanks!! Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft@python.org on behalf of BR!j!TH Sent: Wed 6/2/2010 11:28 AM To: Bangalore Python Users G

[BangPypers] What are the best python books , you have read.

What are the best python books you have read? should be at least on par with python cookbook. TIA for suggestions. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org

Re: [BangPypers] Pygments help

Oops,my bad! My version of python is 3.0.I didn't notice it and un-installed it and Pygments working nice on 2.6. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python

Re: [BangPypers] Pygments help

>"pygmentize" is just a normal python script. You should have no problems >running it under windows. Well, it's a shell script with no extension , i opened it in an editor ,it contains python code.see the below code. #here goes the path to python interpreter,actually i overriden that data,so

[BangPypers] Pygments help

installed it from source (well,i have windows xp) by running python setup.py install and when i looked for docs to invoke on a file say Test.cs there is a pygmentize file to invoke it.It looks like a *nix file.How to invoke Pygments in windows? Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatipa

Re: [BangPypers] packing floating data

parts are floats. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft@python.org on behalf of murugadoss Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 6:22 PM To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India Subject: R

[BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf

Hi list, Does anyone compiled all PEP's into a PDF document or chm file.I searched the internet but didn't get it.If you guys found pdf/chm file, please send the link. TIA, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. ___ BangPypers mailing list

Re: [BangPypers] python supports frameworks ?

Banglore is always a better idea if you can afford,IMO.The more number of companies the better the chances of getting a call or job. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers

Re: [BangPypers] Coaching institute in Bangalore.

xpert and you were taught by a mediocre. :) Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Coaching institute in Bangalore.

e this once you attend the demo class and asked questions. Ofcourse, the above analogy applies for who love technology,then only you can judge based on factors like clarity of thought in his expression and exposure he has on technology. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, M

Re: [BangPypers] Coaching institute in Bangalore.

You would have started a separate thread for it..:( Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft@python.org on behalf of ?? Sent: Fri 4/16/2010 5:52 PM To: Bangalore Python U

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: [Inpycon] letterhead and seal

How about using Pycon-2009(banglore) logo as a seal? or official logo entries sent for logo contest? or atleast making some changes to them and come up with instead of designing from scratch. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message-

Re: [BangPypers] [COMMERCIAL] CodersCombat project hosting servicefor all

I think in github you can make project *private*. Am i wrong? Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft@python.org on behalf of Azhagu selvan Sent: Wed 4/14/2010 12:23 P

Re: [BangPypers] User group meeting this/next weekend?

I second that opinion. Like patterns used and variations of them and extendability of an app.. future prospects and counterparts .. and many more i can think of ... Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bou

Re: [BangPypers] running python on mac...

Probably this link could help. Anyway, i am not sarcastic about your question, http://www.google.co.in/search?q=idle+font+size+mac Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebono

Re: [BangPypers] Hi

>All error conditions are abstracted into exceptions which your calling >code can catch. My 2 cents;from the Zen of Python , "Errors should never pass silently,Unless explicitly silenced" Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy

Re: [BangPypers] date range

>>This is because AND operator short-circuits. So when 1 < foo() is false, it >>terminates then and there. is there any language which doesn't short circuit and,or,(|| ,&&)? just curious .I never heard of any. Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy

Re: [BangPypers] date range

I mean it to the function foo(). Thanks&Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, Mobile:9393099772, -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft@python.org on behalf of Vinay Shastry Sent: Thu 2/25/2010 9:28 AM To: Bangalore Python Users Group - I

Re: [BangPypers] combine R,G,B channel

Here my cents,Instead of combining the three images to get the color of the final image,You can use RGB values to generate the random image on the fly. r=random.choice(range(256)) g=random.choice(range(256)) b=random.choice(range(256)) I don't know what you are trying to achieve(no knowledge on

Re: [BangPypers] date range

It's called TWICE , no matter with or without side effects. I asked this on SO,somebody came up with this answer! >>> def check(): print 'Called Once' return 2 >>> 1>> 1>> Happy Hacking. Regards, ~ Srini T ___ BangPypers mailing li

Re: [BangPypers] date range

>>a < b < c is equivalent to a < b and b < c *except that* b is evaluated only once. Did u mean to say that evaluating b only once applies to a Regards, ~ Srini T ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/m

Re: [BangPypers] date range

>>a < b < c is equivalent to a < b and b < c *except that* b is evaluated only once. Do mean to say that evaluating b only once applies to ahttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http

Re: [BangPypers] date range

>>Formally, if a, b, c, ..., y, z are expressions and op1, op2, ..., opN are comparison operators, then a op1 b op2 c ... y opN z is equivalent to a op1 b and b op2 c and ... y opN z, except that each expression is evaluated at most once. Ok..Got it... Especially last sentence caught my ey

Re: [BangPypers] date range

>>more compact is_in_range startdate < date < enddate I am very much interested to know how the above expression is evaluated in compiler? If the compiler evaluates left to right ,startdatehttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] which one is the best pythonic way .

>> But practicality beats purity. Given a choice, I will always use the latter instead of the former, irrespective of the "elegance", which is questionable and subjective anyway :) Shall I say,Go with your personal preference in personal projects,provided milliseconds performance is not a constra

Re: [BangPypers] which one is the best pythonic way .

Thanks for the replies and I avoid using lambdas.. Btw,Shall I avoid using filter and map ? Because what ever filter and map do,I could seem to do the same with Listcomprehensions.. Is there any situation in which they fare better than list comprehensions? Regards, ~ Srini T

[BangPypers] which one is the best pythonic way .

I have written four solutions to a problem(self explanatory) ,out of them ,which one is the pythonic way of doing and is there any other ways of solving it? 1.sum([i for i in range(1000) if i%3==0 or i%5==0]) 2.gen=(i for i in range(1000)) sum([i for i in gen if i%3==0 or i%5==0]) 3.s

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

>>If you look beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd mentality, you will realise that most languages have a good sweetspot they manage to excel at. I never searched for it .But in what domains Python is excellent compared to other OOP languages? I know that for AI ,you need to writ

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

>>The fact that Python is open source is orthogonal to the fact that it compiles source into bytecode which can be decompiled. Also "Python" >>can't be open source. "Python" is a programming language. A concrete implementation (eg. CPython) can be open source. >>By your logic, "C" is opensource (in

[BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource ,so many companies fear that their product's byte code could be reverse engineered.To protect their Intellectual Property rights they stay away from python, is it true? 2.What hinders python from becoming a popular OOP language,l

Re: [BangPypers] Internationals getting Python/Programming Jobs

>Umm, widen your choice beyond Bangalore. Consider places like Pune, Delhi (including NCR) and Hyderabad. In Hyderabad , I know of two companies which use python for Automation testing. One is Emerson Network Power Two is Intoto inc,Now part of freescale semiconductor. As noufal and steve said I

[BangPypers] [OT] Read how twitter is using Scala.

http://www.artima.com/scalazine/articles/twitter_on_scala.html Regards, ~ Srini T ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Future of Python Programmers

Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < > srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote: > >> >> As Noufal said, don't become a language  specialist, as that >> >> amounts >> to limiting yourself too much  upfront. . >> I didn&

Re: [BangPypers] Future of Python Programmers

To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Future of Python Programmers On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote: > >> As Noufal said, don't become a language specialist, as that > &

Re: [BangPypers] Future of Python Programmers

>> As Noufal said, don't become a language specialist, as that amounts to limiting yourself too much upfront. . I didn't get this point. I would like to know.please clarify on this point >>>.In my experience, companies prefer well-skilled generalists than deeply skilled specialists, unless one

Re: [BangPypers] Help plzz..

>The official tutorial : http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html (best place to start) Mark Pilgrims Dive into Python : >http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html(excellent read) +1 for dive into python ;An excellent one,indeed. Regards, Srinivas Reddy T - You never learn something until yo

Re: [BangPypers] [Fwd: Contribution to Opensource]

>> Is it possible to guide newbies like me whenever faced with errors >> generated during running of any of py program ?[..] >The entry barrier is *really* low. You can contribute from anything to typo fixes in the documentation to architecture of the whole system. And you're free to do as

Re: [BangPypers] Unladen Swallow for Py3k

>>>Can you elaborate a little about the "free" part? >>>Do you expect the Google to treat Python like Sun treated Java in the early days? +1 for this question. I am very much eager to hear from AB. Regards, Srini T -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___

Re: [BangPypers] Retrieving images from PDFs

Though I never tried it, Reportlab has a pdf library (If I am not wrong). Have you tried it?? When the limestone of imperative programming is worn away, the granite of functional programming will be observed. ---Simon Peyton Jones. -Original Message- From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_th

Re: [BangPypers] Do not know how much truth

Yep, it's true... http://groups.google.com/group/unladen-swallow/browse_thread/thread/4edb c406f544643e# Regards, Srinivas Reddy T - You never learn something until you have to write something in it(a programming language), until you have to live and breathe it. It's one thing to go learn

[BangPypers] Python Videos

I generally watch NPTel videos for programming stuff. They are good in content and sound clarity is excellent. I searched for python related videos on blip.tv,found GVR Py3K intro video but sound clarity is not good. Can somebody suggest me the good python video links (should pertain

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book for ORM

Thanks for the link. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- "So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better !!!" "A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take

[BangPypers] Suggest me a book for ORM

Hi all, Can anybody suggest me a good book for ORM(Object Relational Mapping) , better if it is language agnostic? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- "So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better !!!" "A Strong and Positive attitu

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers monthly meetup.

>>Vishal ,I  asked this erlier.. >> Nobody seems to be interested or, >> To put it in another way ,don't have time to do it..  :( [..] >Usually, these meetings are a bunch of people sitting in a room and one guy >standing up to talk about something. Sometimes, there are slides and a >projector

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers monthly meetup.

Vishal ,I asked this erlier.. Nobody seems to be interested or, To put it in another way ,don't have time to do it.. :( Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- "So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better !!!" "A Strong and Positive a

[BangPypers] [X-Post] How about organizing Hyderabad Python Meetings??

Hello all, Since Bangpypers and ChennaiPy users are organizing weekend/monthly meetings ,It would be nice to organize the same for Hyderabad people also. So Hyderabadis who are in BangPypers and ChennaiPy lists please stand up!!! We can talk something about it. Regards, Srinivas R

Re: [BangPypers] 3rd saturday 21st

Is it possible for you people to share the slides or pdf's of talks you have?? Atleast if you upload them on slideshare or scribd that would be very much helpful to people like me who live in Hyderabad.!! - you never learn something until you have to write something in it, until you have

[BangPypers] FYI..

Just now , i have gone through this article regarding the differences between "Abstraction and Encapsulation and Information hiding" thought of sharing with you people. http://www.itmweb.com/essay550.htm Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I

Re: [BangPypers] Let's have an indepth session on some opensolaristechnologies

Some time ago I read an article regarding Linus complaining about the license of a file system,Is it the ZFS? Anyway I am not much into linux, just want to double check.. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand

[BangPypers] Posting style

>> The best rules are those which are never imposed :) +1,excellent. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@pyth

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me an opensource project!!

>>Pick something in your general area of interest and try to fix bugs on it. That should gradually boost your confidence to a level where you can contribute. Size will >>stop becoming a big problem then. Check out the python package index for Python related projects that are lying around. Thanks

[BangPypers] Suggest me an opensource project!!

) i dont know where to start off. TIA. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

[BangPypers] Sudoku solver

) Comments,improvements are welcome!!! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ni5lhkmn0nQ/StghQIhf0bI/AAM/txjMQic_9l U/s1600-h/2009-10-16_125017.jpg http://xorola.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/a-sudoku-solver-program-in-python / Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I

[BangPypers] Suggest me a book

Just completed reading the book, "The Coders At Work",It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see

[BangPypers] Why Indians copy

a big ghost to me back then. I have had no choice than to copy though i disgusted it and felt guilt of it.i mean this from my heart. i was caught and infy sent me out. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I

[BangPypers] Re

ing that's why i said. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

[BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius.