Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Nishith Nand
There's a Book Paradise in Jayanagar, they generally give good discounts. I generally order books from indiaplaza.in if I am able to find the LPE. Thanks and Regards, Nishith On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Timmy Jose wrote: > You mean 'Premier Book Shop'? Last time I checked, it was getting p

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > it is cultural - India will only be free when youngsters are confident enough > to smoke/drink in front of their elders. This same attitude of 'respect' being > the crucial thing is everywhere. Ask questions? You lose respect by expo

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Roshan Mathews wrote: [..] > The thing that put me off about the book (but I'd still recommend it > as an interesting read) was something he said in the early chapters > about BIll Joy or computers or hackers ... I don't remember > specifically what it was, but I

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 12:00:30 pm Timmy Jose wrote: > You mean 'Premier Book Shop'? Last time I checked, it was getting pretty > crowded out by the watering hole next door ;-) yes - Premier. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ BangPypers mai

Re: [BangPypers] Why Indians copy

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 12:01:15 pm Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > I have had no choice than to copy though i disgusted it and felt guilt of > > it.i mean this from my heart. > > i was caught and infy sent me out. > > I pity your position but I can understand it. You clearly did not suit > t

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Srijayanth Sridhar > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: >>>

Re: [BangPypers] [fsug-tvm] Re: Guess me python game

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Aneesh A wrote: > Find the new edition with some bug fixes and enhancements > 2009-10-15 Aneesh > > * Added clearscreen function. > * Fixed : Once the high scores are cleared and tried to view the high > scores, > the IO error is shown. > * Added Copying >

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: [..] > We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. Time? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Timmy Jose
You mean 'Premier Book Shop'? Last time I checked, it was getting pretty crowded out by the watering hole next door ;-) On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 16 Oct 2009 11:16:05 am Amit Saha wrote: > > Zaki Manian wrote: > > > Where do people buy programming book

Re: [BangPypers] Why Indians copy

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote: > >Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. > > That was a big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what > they are teaching(in training) me? > > they taught enti

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > >> On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: >> > I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you >> go >> > to the Ruby forums >>

Re: [BangPypers] Video streaming and video recording of the meet

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Ramdas S wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > >> Folks: >> >> Let's assume that we have good bandwidth to stream video. >> >> Let me know what I need to set up here, and I'll see if I can have it >> ready by Sunday. >> >> We can

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: > Interesting that you should bring that up. I read Outliers a few > months ago, and while it made some interesting points, I was frankly > not very impressed by it, as also another best-selling book with a > somewhat similar outlook, Freakonmi

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 11:16:05 am Amit Saha wrote: > Zaki Manian wrote: > > Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an > > International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so > > those are my main work around. > > You could consider "Crossword" near M.G.Road or

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Zaki Manian wrote: > Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an > International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those > are my main work around. I generally buy books from Tata Book House, IISc. They give 20% discount o

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:36:35 +0530 Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid > wrote: > > But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a > > cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia > > article on this topic! > > > There is a hypothesis prese

Re: [BangPypers] Video streaming and video recording of the meet

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > Folks: > > Let's assume that we have good bandwidth to stream video. > > Let me know what I need to set up here, and I'll see if I can have it > ready by Sunday. > > We can also test all this before the meet > Is Baiju around this weekend

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Amit Saha
Zaki Manian wrote: Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those are my main work around. You could consider "Crossword" near M.G.Road or "Landmark" at Kormangla Forum mall as a repo of all kinds of bo

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those are my main work around. US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 Sent from Karnataka, India On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Anurag Priyam wr

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Anurag Priyam
How come no one mentioned ESR's CatB? I loved it. - The Cathedral and the Bazzar by Eric S Raymond -- Anurag Priyam 2nd Year,Mechanical Engineering, IIT Kharagpur. +91-9775550642 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
+1 from me. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at > ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. > > I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been > working on for the last few weeks wh

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > >> On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan wrote: >> > >> > We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. >> >> One other thing that we'd discussed the last

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 8:32:33 am David Lyon wrote: > Western civilisation is built on inventing and copying... I think you have missed the point - by 'copying' we are talking of 'cheating' -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

[BangPypers] Video streaming and video recording of the meet

2009-10-15 Thread Sriram Narayanan
Folks: Let's assume that we have good bandwidth to stream video. Let me know what I need to set up here, and I'll see if I can have it ready by Sunday. We can also test all this before the meet. -- Sriram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > > > > We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. > > One other thing that we'd discussed the last weekend was how those who > are Python savvy can be a part of the Belenix developer community. > > I'

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > > We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. One other thing that we'd discussed the last weekend was how those who are Python savvy can be a part of the Belenix developer community. I'd like to showcase some of Belenix - especially the ZFS file system, and

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On 10/16/09, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vishal wrote: > > +1 > > > > > > Thanks. Since this counts to around 6 people, let us have the meeting. > Hopefully more people will join in on the day. > > I will send another email to confirm this. > We can

Re: [BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)

2009-10-15 Thread Siddharta
Sidharth Kuruvila wrote: AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. Aha a challenge, I shall undertake this as a test of my communication skillz. :-) The Y combinator is quite interesting. I blogged about this a little

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vishal wrote: > +1 > Thanks. Since this counts to around 6 people, let us have the meeting. Hopefully more people will join in on the day. I will send another email to confirm this. > Vishal Sapre > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Srinivasachari < > s

Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
Hi Sharath, On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I > > have a query regarding meetings > > Who can attend meetings, What is the proce

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > failing - and if you do lose respect you hang yourself. In fact I once made a > remark about RMS, and was told 'at least respect him as an elder'. Why should > I? He is younger than me ;-) > Hahaha. :-D *must avoid antediluvian joke ...

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 8:31:11 am Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in > > them? > > I think you didn't see the +1 at the end of the email. I saw one with 4'>' characters before it -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.co

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread David Lyon
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:22:25 +0530, srid wrote: > I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: > > "Modern education in India is often criticized for being based on rote > learning rather than problem solving. BusinessWeek denigrates the > Indian curriculum saying it revol

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid wrote: > But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural > issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this > topic! > There is a hypothesis presented in Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, on cultural factors causing air

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 8:22:25 am srid wrote: > I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: > > "Modern education in India is often criticized for being based on rote > learning rather than problem solving. BusinessWeek denigrates the > Indian curriculum saying it revolves a

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in > them? > > I think you didn't see the +1 at the end of the email. -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread srid
I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: "Modern education in India is often criticized for being based on rote learning rather than problem solving. BusinessWeek denigrates the Indian curriculum saying it revolves around rote learning.[67] and ExpressIndia suggests tha

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Srijayanth Sridhar
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > > I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go > > to the Ruby forums > > no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC > --

Re: [BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sidharth Kuruvila wrote: > AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' > post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. > Thanks, Sidharth, that was very interesting. Can't say that it has settled into my head, but the basic idea of passi

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Tejas Dinkar
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

[BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)

2009-10-15 Thread Sidharth Kuruvila
AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. Aha a challenge, I shall undertake this as a test of my communication skillz. :-) The question is how do we implement a recursive function in a language in which names can only be

Re: [BangPypers] Why Indians copy

2009-10-15 Thread Rajeev J Sebastian
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: >>Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. > > That was a  big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what > they are teaching(in training) me? > > they taught entire java in 5 days and  expected to do prog

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > > This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this > > mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense > > to anyone but can we terminate t

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this > mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense > to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. > Off topic, and the generalizations are a li

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh wrote: > ... [:)] > > ... [:P]... > ... [:)] > ... [:)] > Orkut overdose? :) Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. Thanks Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh wrote: > Coming back to the main question

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread shameek ghosh
Coming back to the main questions.[:)] 1. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? How many Indians do you think can actually code?Most can't.They think they do, but they don't.Think of when we were in college, how many of us actually worked hard and coded

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vishal
+1 for *Pragmatic Progammer* Another classic that on software engineering: *The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering* by fred brooks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month Enjoy,Vishal On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > Hey nobody mentioned Pragmat

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Yuvi Panda
Hey nobody mentioned Pragmatic Programmer? And Paul Graham's essays, while not a book, are just as good. I personally feel the best writing of the future will not be the ones printed on dead trees. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal I

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Yuvi Panda
Most important reason being people joining CS because of fashion and not because they like it. In my entire class of 68, only 4 joined CS because they liked it. The rest simply because they didn't want to 'disobey parents'. The 'don't question it' culture hurts. 20 people got 90+ in OOP in my clas

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: >> Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest >> "Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland" >> (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistain

Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I > have a query regarding meetings > Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. > > Regards, > Sharath Sama Anyone can attend a mee

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: >> Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest >> "Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland" >> (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistain

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest > "Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland" > (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) > , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for t

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
>> >> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you >> >> go to the Ruby forums >> > >> > no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC >> >> Forums like say, http://stackoverflow.com/ ? > > havent come across that - but I some how do not like forums -

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Sharath Sama
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Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 5:32:48 pm Vinayak Hegde wrote: > > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > >> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you > >> go to the Ruby forums > > > > no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest "Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland" (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for those who want to learn functional languages. -- Vinayak On Th

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: >>> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go >>> to the Ruby forums >> >> no real prog

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Zaki Manian wrote: > I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. Programming Pearls - Jon Bentley -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.pyth

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: >> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go >> to the Ruby forums > > no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC There

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > Beautiful Code > Beautiful Architecture > Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major > Progr

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 5:18:07 pm Vinayak Hegde wrote: > Beautiful Code > Beautiful Architecture > Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major > Programming Languages > Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age > Joel on Software (the book) > The Best Software

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software Writing I: Selected and Introduced by Joel Spolsky -- Vinayak On Thu

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 4:58:31 pm Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > >> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you > >> go to the Ruby forums > > > > no r

Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: > Just completed reading the book, "The Coders At Work",It's just an excellent > book and > It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. > Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? > http://www.diveintopython.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
But StackOverflow is changing all that. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > > I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go > > to the Ruby forums > > no

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: >> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go >> to the Ruby forums > > no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC > Forum

[BangPypers] Suggest me a book

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Just completed reading the book, "The Coders At Work",It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do a

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
I frequently speak of the challenge culture poses in doing product development in India. But in some sense, culture is a great problem to have. Culture can change and fairly fast. There are also fantastic opportunities for entrepeneurs so build microcosms of effective problem solving culture in In

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go > to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcf

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most important skills when entering a new discipline is learning the appropriate jargon and using it drive your queries. Search isn't generally a skill taught in

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
> Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google > groups) ? Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service companies

[BangPypers] Why Indians copy

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
>Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. That was a big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what they are teaching(in training) me? they taught entire java in 5 days and expected to do programming by the end of it which i couldn't.OOPS was a big ghost to me back the

[BangPypers] Re

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
>>May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: >>"Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have" I have attended Pycon and observed you people(noufal,senthil,ShyamShankar,AB,Kenneth) talking that's why i said. Regard

Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I > have a query regarding meetings > Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. > > Regards, > Sharath Sama Anyone can attend the

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Srijayanth Sridhar
I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums you'll find that on an average, there's at least one Indian person a day who asks for solutions. A lot has to do with context and the way the education system works. There is no active fostering of individu

[BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Sharath Sama
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Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: "Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have" On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote: > Hi list, >

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: [..] > Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google > groups) ? [..] > Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in __

[BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Vishal
+1 Vishal Sapre On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Srinivasachari < srinivasachari2...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > Regards, > Srinivasachari. > Sent from Bangalore, KA, India > > 2009/10/15 Kenneth Gonsalves > > is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in >> them? >> >

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivasachari
+1 Regards, Srinivasachari. Sent from Bangalore, KA, India 2009/10/15 Kenneth Gonsalves > is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in > them? > > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 2:06:01 pm Ramdas S wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < > >

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them? On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 2:06:01 pm Ramdas S wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < > > abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> On Thu,

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai >> wrote: >> [..] >> > It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. Ther

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > [..] > > It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been > > only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali > > and all, I need

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: [..] >  It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been >  only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali >  and all, I need a few more head count before I decide on it. > > We can have it if ar

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM, JAGANADH G wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Pradip Caulagi wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at >> > ThoughtWorks, Diamond Distri

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread JAGANADH G
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Pradip Caulagi wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at > > ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. > > > > I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Pradip Caulagi
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Hi all, > >     I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at > ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. > > I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been > working on for the last few weeks which uses OpenCalais > and NLP to se

Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 12:33:46 pm Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > they will go into site-packages of the 2.6 version - if you install > > properly. > > That will be "dist-packages" from 2.6 upwards. my fedora 11 2.6 has site-packages, no dist-packages -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior P

Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Hi all, > >     I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at > ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. > > I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been > working on for the last few weeks which uses OpenCalais > and NLP to se

Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora

2009-10-15 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 12:26:18 pm Arvind Jamuna Dixit wrote: > > I downloaded the source tarball for Python 3.1 from python.org and built > > it. Works fine now. However, I don't know what could be the implications > > when I start dow

Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 12:26:18 pm Arvind Jamuna Dixit wrote: > I downloaded the source tarball for Python 3.1 from python.org and built > it. Works fine now. However, I don't know what could be the implications > when I start downloading and installing modules for the other version of > Python (