Re: [Bacula-users] encryption & compression

2012-08-30 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Phil Stracchino : > On 08/22/12 11:18, lst_ho...@kwsoft.de wrote: >> Zitat von lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: >>> according to the manual client based software compression is not >>> useful when using tape drives with builtin compression like LTO. Is >>> this still true when using data encryption

Re: [Bacula-users] encryption & compression

2012-08-22 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 08/22/12 11:18, lst_ho...@kwsoft.de wrote: > Zitat von lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: >> according to the manual client based software compression is not >> useful when using tape drives with builtin compression like LTO. Is >> this still true when using data encryption? With this the encrypted >> data ar

Re: [Bacula-users] encryption & compression

2012-08-22 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: > Hello > > according to the manual client based software compression is not > useful when using tape drives with builtin compression like LTO. Is > this still true when using data encryption? With this the encrypted > data are normally not really compresable anymor

[Bacula-users] encryption & compression

2012-08-17 Thread lst_hoe02
Hello according to the manual client based software compression is not useful when using tape drives with builtin compression like LTO. Is this still true when using data encryption? With this the encrypted data are normally not really compresable anymore but a compression on the client be

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-03 Thread Robert Nelson
PROTECTED]; 'Landon Fuller'; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS > Landon, > > I've changed the code so that the encryption code prefixes the data block > with a block length prior to encryption. > >

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-03 Thread Kern Sibbald
that is also used for sparse file length. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon > Fuller > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:08 PM > To: Michael Brennen > Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subje

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-03 Thread Landon Fuller
On Nov 1, 2006, at 23:25, Michael Brennen wrote: On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Robert Nelson wrote: On top of the issue with the reversed processing during restore that I previously mentioned, there is a fundamental flaw in the processing of compressed+gzipped data. The problem is that boundaries a

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-03 Thread Landon Fuller
On Nov 2, 2006, at 13:22, Robert Nelson wrote: The problem is that currently there are three filters defined: compression, encryption, and sparse file handling. The current implementation of compression and sparse file handling both require block boundary preservation. Even if zlib streamin

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-03 Thread Landon Fuller
On Nov 2, 2006, at 08:30, Robert Nelson wrote: Landon, I've changed the code so that the encryption code prefixes the data block with a block length prior to encryption. The decryption code accumulates data until a full data block is decrypted before passing it along to the decompressio

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Robert Nelson
eforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS On Nov 2, 2006, at 13:22, Robert Nelson wrote: > The problem is that currently there are three filters defined: > compression, > encryption, and sparse file handling. The current implementation of > compr

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Robert Nelson
explore a whole section of the Bacula code I hadn't played with before. :-). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Fuller Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:08 PM To: Michael Brennen Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subjec

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, On 11/2/2006 12:20 PM, Alan Brown wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Arno Lehmann wrote: > > >>>Not if compression happens prior to encryption. :) >> >>Theoretically - yes, but I'm quite sure that encryption usually also >>compresses data. > > > If the encryption routines also contain compressio

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Robert Nelson
file handling would be broken. -Original Message- From: Landon Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:06 AM To: Robert Nelson Cc: 'Michael Brennen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/C

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Michael Brennen
On Thursday 02 November 2006 10:30, Robert Nelson wrote: > The code now works for all four scenarios with encryption and compression: > none, encryption, compression, and encryption + compression. Unfortunately > the code is no longer compatible for previously encrypted backups. Excellent. Is t

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread novosirj
app itself)? -Original Message- From: Robert Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS Date: Thu Nov 2, 2006 11:30 am Size: 2K To: 'Landon Fuller' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Michael Brennen' <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Robert Nelson
eforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS On Nov 1, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Michael Brennen wrote: > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 15:33, Arno Lehmann wrote: > >>>> This sounds like compression should be automatically disabled when >>>> encryp

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-02 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Arno Lehmann wrote: >> Not if compression happens prior to encryption. :) > > Theoretically - yes, but I'm quite sure that encryption usually also > compresses data. If the encryption routines also contain compression routines. > This is completely unverified and refers to en

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Brennen
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Robert Nelson wrote: > On top of the issue with the reversed processing during restore that I > previously mentioned, there is a fundamental flaw in the processing of > compressed+gzipped data. The problem is that boundaries aren't preserved > across encrypt/decrypt. > > What

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Nelson
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Fuller Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:08 PM To: Michael Brennen Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS On Nov 1, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Michael Brennen wrote: > On Wednesday 01 Novem

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Landon Fuller
On Nov 1, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Michael Brennen wrote: On Wednesday 01 November 2006 15:33, Arno Lehmann wrote: This sounds like compression should be automatically disabled when encrypton is enabled. Should be useless anyway as encrypted data should no longer be compressible. Not if compres

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Brennen
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Landon Fuller wrote: >> Landon, what is your take on this? Since you wrote the code you >> seem to be the best source on whether the openssl functions you >> are using compress data. > > The encryption does not include compression -- It made more sense > to piggyback on the

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Brennen
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 15:33, Arno Lehmann wrote: > >>This sounds like compression should be automatically disabled when > >>encrypton is enabled. Should be useless anyway as encrypted data should > >>no longer be compressible. > > > > Not if compression happens prior to encryption. :) > >

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, On 11/1/2006 6:00 PM, Michael Brennen wrote: > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 05:43, Arno Lehmann wrote: > > >>>So... in my testing the combination of encryption and compression is >>>either not writing files correctly to tape (in which case there is a >>>lot of tape space taken up needlessly

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Brennen
ednesday, November 01, 2006 3:43 AM > To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS > > Hi, > > On 11/1/2006 5:43 AM, Michael Brennen wrote: > > I posted a couple of days ago that restoring files from 1.39

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Brennen
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 05:43, Arno Lehmann wrote: > > So... in my testing the combination of encryption and compression is > > either not writing files correctly to tape (in which case there is a > > lot of tape space taken up needlessly :) or the files are being > > corrupted in the restor

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Nelson
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arno Lehmann Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:43 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS Hi, On 11/1/2006 5:43 AM, Michael Brennen wrote: > I posted a couple of days ago that restoring files from 1.3

Re: [Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-11-01 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, On 11/1/2006 5:43 AM, Michael Brennen wrote: > I posted a couple of days ago that restoring files from 1.39.27 > (current CVS) with both encryption and compression turned on > resulted in 0 length files being restored. > > I was able to test that further tonight by archiving and restoring a

[Bacula-users] Encryption/Compression Conflict in CVS

2006-10-31 Thread Michael Brennen
I posted a couple of days ago that restoring files from 1.39.27 (current CVS) with both encryption and compression turned on resulted in 0 length files being restored. I was able to test that further tonight by archiving and restoring a file in the 4 combinations of encryption/compression off/