Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 04:17 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nautilus-sendto/+spec/become-consistend-with-copyto+moveto I'm still on Karmic and my Nautilus does not have "Move to" and "Copy to". But it does have "Send to ...". It brings up a dialog that offers "Inst

[Ayatana] jam windicator

hello Excuse me for not following the windicator discussion earlier too closely. I just read about the planned categories, and wanted to point out that the list is lacking a resource consumption management category, or jam windicator as I'd call it. The icon should show whether or not the releva

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

Hi Thorsten, On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 09:57, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 04:17 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > > > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nautilus-sendto/+spec/become-consistend-with-copyto+moveto > > I would be surprised if "Send to ..." became something completely

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

Hi Greg, On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:34, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > On 25 May 2010 12:29, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Focus stealing *is* less of a problem than making all other window > > openings unpredictable. > > Mark, > > I've proposed a solution (from a user experience point of view) that

[Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

I had an operation running on an open document today. During the operation, further use of the application is not possible: http://images.jarlath.multiply.com/image/1/photos/17/600x600/1/progress.png?et=pMgx3nnyrF6eyBHZJlGqXw&nmid=339355362 So I minimized the application to get on with something

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:49 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > I would be surprised if "Send to ..." became something > completely > different in Lucid. > > > How often did you try using this dialog? > After trying to use it quite often, i think it would be weak if the > dia

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

I think this is an excellent idea, and not just for UI-locking apps. For example, let's say you have Chrome running and it is in the process of downloading a file. Although the Chrome UI is not blocked by the download, you could still show this progress in the task bar. If memory serves, Windows 7

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialogs witho ut user input”

> I've proposed a solution (from a user experience point of view) that > prevents focus-stealing while also keeping window-opening predictable: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/67476/comments/16 > > 2. When a new window appears, it should appear immediately behind the > f

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

On 27/05/10 13:48, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > http://images.jarlath.multiply.com/image/1/photos/17/600x600/2/p-desktop.png?et=lztbS%2BxwhD9LOUNQSMavBA&nmid=339355362 > It would be

[Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

much is this talking about the windicators but little or nothing about the replacement of a vital part as the status bar. This mcokup shows a banshee redesign proposed by me and shows the notifications of the window (similar to the notifiers bubble) normal: http://img72.imageshack.us/f/img72/449/

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

Le jeudi 27 mai 2010 à 15:59 +0200, dani planas armangue a écrit : > much is this talking about the windicators but little or nothing about > the replacement of a vital part as the status bar. This mcokup shows a > banshee redesign proposed by me and shows the notifications of the > window (simila

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

i made someone, hope you like http://img17.imageshack.us/f/img17/5140/progressvariations.jpg Daniel.P -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More hel

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

I've made a mockup of this. Here: http://i.imgur.com/dNEJS.png ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

On 27/05/10 15:09, Conscious User wrote: > Le jeudi 27 mai 2010 à 15:59 +0200, dani planas armangue a écrit : > >> much is this talking about the windicators but little or nothing about >> the replacement of a vital part as the status bar. This mcokup shows a >> banshee redesign proposed by me a

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

On 27/05/10 15:43, dani planas armangue wrote: > i made someone, hope you like > > http://img17.imageshack.us/f/img17/5140/progressvariations.jpg > Those are nifty. Other variations: - small progress bars overlayed on the icons (say, b&w only) - desaturate the icon and have the saturation re

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

On 27/05/10 17:14, Dieki N wrote: > I've made a mockup of this. Here: http://i.imgur.com/dNEJS.png This is very cool too - I really like the lighting effect at the tip of the progress bar, makes me think of a live fuse. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [Ayatana] Fw: Re: Rethink the noninteractive Live CD default boot?

If I was a windows user I would want to download a 500mb .exe file which md5ed itself when I doubled clicked on it then launched a dialog that let me choose my USB drive by name or prompted me to insert a blank CD so that it could burn itself (with verification), and booted straight to the desktop

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

ok i made more gray and integrate with window, I have a couple of versions, what do you like? version 1: http://img210.imageshack.us/f/img210/449/statusbarmessages0.jpg http://img707.imageshack.us/f/img707/5694/statusbarmessages01.jpg version 2: http://img687.imageshack.us/f/img687/3612/statusb

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

It needs to be much tighter. Check out Chrome or Chromium for an example. They use a small font, the gray area is just big enough for the text, and it's tightly bound to the bottom left of the window. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

google chrome is that is inspiration for this, but I think we will find yourself on our way. http://img684.imageshack.us/f/img684/1521/statusmessages.jpg in this i add some shadow http://img571.imageshack.us/f/img571/2831/statusmessagesshadow.jpg Daniel.P -- __

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

Is it possible for the window manager (or some other mechanism that it can communicate with) to know if I am interacting with a window at the moment (defined as typing, clicking, moving etc within a certain time I guess, that would needed to be tested out)? If so, I would simply like for windows t

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

I love the way that when I right-click on a file on my desktop it gives me the option to move it to the desktop. Same problem in the home folder. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : ht

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

i create a wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/daniel%20status% 20buble Daniel Planas -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

I like them in general, but I have some reservations. 1. They still seem pretty big (i.e. not very "tight", as Mark put it). I already find many of the controls on those screenshots to be quite large, and everything starts adding up to eat up our screen space. 2. Do we need them to be

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

I might be the only one who thinks this, but the saturation ones are really difficult to see clearly where the progress is at. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > >> >> Those are nifty. Other variations: >> >> - smal

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

How should grouped windows be handled? A few ideas: 1. Show progress of one window. This could be the first progress state added, or the last one, or a random one. ;) 2. Show multiple progress states. I think this could be especially nice with the "burning fuse" mockup; ie. multiple fuses. It wou

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 15:27, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > I've just realized I've been replying to people individually instead of to > the list! (*slaps forehead*) > This happens pretty frequently it seems. Relpy-to would fix this problem, but there's a a wontfix bug on it: https://bugs.launchpad.n

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

> I'm not sure if I agree with this one. I dedicate some workspaces to > a single fullscreen app (ex: firefox), and I never bother to peek at > the taskbar of those workspaces because nothing else is supposed to > be there. The suggestion above would make alert windows appear > behind firefox and s

Re: [Ayatana] Progress dialogs & minimising applications

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 18:33, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 27/05/10 17:14, Dieki N wrote: > > I've made a mockup of this. Here: http://i.imgur.com/dNEJS.png > > This is very cool too - I really like the lighting effect at the tip of > the progress bar, makes me think of a live fuse. > > Mark >

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

This is *exactly* what my proposal intends to achieve (assuming it can actually be implemented). On 27 May 2010 19:23, Kristoffer Lundén wrote: > Is it possible for the window manager (or some other mechanism that it can > communicate with) to know if I am interacting with a window at the moment

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

I, err, have to jump in here and say Please, If you're going to do anything with when windows are raised, raise them more aggressively! Or fix how windows that aren't raised are handled; right now they are completely muted. One of favourite horrible things: choosing to show a window via an indicat

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

Hey Conscious On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 15:39, Conscious User wrote: > That's the main reason I dislike the current behavior of the update > manager window. :) > > I personally think a better approach would be something like the > morphing things suggested in the notification guidelines: in > fron

Re: [Ayatana] jam windicator

Hi Toni ;) On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:54, Toni Ruottu wrote: > hello > > Excuse me for not following the windicator discussion earlier too > closely. I just read about the planned categories, and wanted to point > out that the list is lacking a resource consumption management > category, or jam

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 02:35, Dylan McCall wrote: > I, err, have to jump in here and say Please, If you're going to do > anything with when windows are raised, raise them more aggressively! > tried sloppy focus already? > Or fix how windows that aren't raised are handled; right now they are >

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

Thanks Dani, beautiful action that speaks louder than words ;) Let's hear what it says: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 22:51, Scott E. Armitage < launch...@scott.armitage.name> wrote: > I like them in general, but I have some reservations. > >1. They still seem pretty big (i.e. not very "tight", as

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators mockups (daniel planas)

Hey there Oscar, On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 19:04, Oscar RdG wrote: > [1] > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=une_windicators_max.jpg > Please explain if you may.. : how does this mockup honor the planned introduction of Global Menu? __

Re: [Ayatana] hosting Ubuntu font for use on websites: Google Font Directory

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 20:39, Jan Claeys wrote: > During UDS there was a question about where to host the Ubuntu font to > make it easily available as a webfont to website designers & developers. > > Maybe the new Google Font Directory[1] as announced by Raph Levien > today[2] is an option? > >

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

Hey Thorsten, On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 14:58, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > I said premature. As in: too early. Because there has been no > discussion, apparently little to no research, no consensus, no > actionable items. > I created the blueprint as a place for ideas, we could use the whiteboard in

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

Hello David, On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 00:06, David Hamm wrote: > Thought I'd attach this here. > > Mouse over dots for submenu > > submenu's ex:? > Open > Shows apps to open with/ other > Move > to Home, Desktop > Copy > Link, to Home, Desktop > > Appear when needed > paste > extract ... > he

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

Interaction with clicking? Oh, please, no! In fact, if your mouse even goes near it, it should move away or become transparent. Status bars are * informational*, not *interactional*. (Hmm, not a word, but maybe it should be). -S On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > Thanks Dan

Re: [Ayatana] replace status bar mockups

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 05:37, Scott E. Armitage < launch...@scott.armitage.name> wrote: > Interaction with clicking? Oh, please, no! In fact, if your mouse even goes > near it, it should move away or become transparent. Status bars are * > informational*, not *interactional*. (Hmm, not a word, bu

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

whow there are some nice ones there! thanks ;) On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 05:12, David Hamm wrote: > Might as well attach this too :D Public domain? > http://gizmodo.com/5540788/116-incredible-wallpapers-by-you > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~a

Re: [Ayatana] "Move to", "Copy to", "Send To.."

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 04:45, David Hamm wrote: > ...I'm curious about nested pie menu's, however standard menu would > have to be worked out first. > The standard menu is an unfriendly raw printout of the list of options that should be available via secondary click. To turn the context menu in

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators mockups (daniel planas)

Hi! That is Dani's mockup. He put together on the panel the window controls, window title and window menu at the same time. I just wanted to point out that the original idea that Mark wrote about [1] was to combine title and menu on the panel, but not at the same time: "By default, we’d display t