Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-04 Thread ello
I agree, huffylinux: the quickest and easiest way to fix this in time for 11.10 is to pin Help to the launcher bar. The stuff written for Unity is really helpful, apart from a few inconsistencies (e.g. is it the Super key or the Meta key, Ubuntu Documentation people?) On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 23:1

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread huffylinux
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:13:19 +0200 Remco wrote: > Help is a perfect introduction for new users (English-only > though). Seriously, take a look at Help. It's awesome. As it is now, help isn't all that easy to find unless you know your way around. At least, I *think* I am the one that pinned it to

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Evan Huus
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > I agree that some sort of Welcome to Ubuntu would be > nice to have. One easy way of achieving that, would be > to simply run a browser in full screen with a stretched > image of a default Ubuntu installs first desktop. We would > then u

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I agree that some sort of Welcome to Ubuntu would be nice to have. One easy way of achieving that, would be to simply run a browser in full screen with a stretched image of a default Ubuntu installs first desktop. We would then use image maps with hover to display information about what the differ

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Matteo Pagliazzi
I think that a tour for ubuntu is a must have. It should be interactive showing users how to do this and this action stepby step. Maybe it could have some links to install codecs, flash player... I also think that Ubuntu should have full translated isos at least for main languages. Il giorno

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Ed Lin
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Remco wrote: > I think we can ignore feelings of belittlement of adventurous people. > They would feel belittled by automatic codec install, bash command > installation suggestions; everything that helps new users. Oh my, are you serious? There is a huge difference

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Hy! I agree with the idea of an ubuntu tour. And I think, as it have been said before that the chosen app must be fully and early translatable. I read few days ago in launchpad oneiric blueprints about a new way to provide translations. Maybe it could help. I can't find the link right now but as s

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
I think the ultimate solution would be a full featured welcome center as shown in the attached mockups and letting people get to do the decision to open Help themselves instead of getting it thrown in their faces. The many benefits of this would be the ability to provide other information as the ex

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Remco
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 16:35, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > You can read the "Ubuntu welcome center" thread: > https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05790.html > and also the section titled the same in this mail in the "a realistic vision > of the next iteration of unity": > https://lists.launchpad.

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
You can read the "Ubuntu welcome center" thread: https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05790.html and also the section titled the same in this mail in the "a realistic vision of the next iteration of unity": https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05999.html Here is the LP bug request for the sam

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Remco
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:09, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > First boot and first login of a "new" user are meaningless. > > What if Eve installs a system for Adam to use? What if George creates > another account to test something? What if Brunhilde installs her 3rd > iteration of Ubuntu? > > What if Vla

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 06/03/2011 03:21 AM, Remco wrote: So, for as long as I can remember, people have been asking for a welcome screen in Ubuntu which is presented when a new user first logs in. Today, I started Help and was amazed by how straightforward this looks. This is what needs to be started on first boot!