On 28 September 2011 15:52, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
wrote:
> No, that is not true. If you have the Dash open, then you can press alt+f2
> to switch to the normal alt+f2 view. Contrary, if you've pressed alt+f2, but
> should've pressed super, you can just press tab. This makes sense. It should
> be eas
Good point, Ian. I am convinced now that the dash must not absorb the
functionality of the run dialog.
The dash should remain user-friendly, especially for new users.
However, the behaviour I wanted would still be available through
lenses? I don't know much about Unity lenses, and at first I thou
Den 28. sep. 2011 20:54, skrev Stefanos A.:
As for it being unlikely, I'd argue that it isn't. There are many
times where I hit Super only to decide I'd rather enter a command
rather than launch an application. Right now it's impossible to
mode-switch easily, because you have to close and reope
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro
> It is simple, but it isn't intuitive.
>
> Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want
> to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash
> to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A new user should
It is simple, but it isn't intuitive.
Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want
to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash
to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A new user should
never have to know what a command is
On 28 September 2011 07:48, Eylem Koca wrote:
> It may sound off-topic, but it's related I think: Up until Beta 2 was
> released, I had this "bug" (I don't know if it's fixed, as I had to do
> a clean install on my laptop and didn't have time to install Beta 2
> yet). When I installed Gnome-Shell
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro
> But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You
> can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any
> other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a
> very different shortcut from Alt-F2,
Den 28. sep. 2011 13:48, skrev Eylem Koca:
It may sound off-topic, but it's related I think: Up until Beta 2 was
released, I had this "bug" (I don't know if it's fixed, as I had to do
a clean install on my laptop and didn't have time to install Beta 2
yet). When I installed Gnome-Shell (yes, bl
It may sound off-topic, but it's related I think: Up until Beta 2 was
released, I had this "bug" (I don't know if it's fixed, as I had to do
a clean install on my laptop and didn't have time to install Beta 2
yet). When I installed Gnome-Shell (yes, blasphemer) Alt-F2 did NOT
work there at all. So
Den 28. sep. 2011 11:51, skrev Ian Santopietro:
But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash.
You can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog
without any other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release
Super, which is a very different shor
But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You
can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any
other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a
very different shortcut from Alt-F2, and not likely to be confused. It is
2011/9/28 Evan Huus
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stefanos A. wrote:
> > And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute
> > command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files'
> in
> > its Dash equivalent. Instead, it works through the list in that
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stefanos A. wrote:
> And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute
> command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files' in
> its Dash equivalent. Instead, it works through the list in that order: if
> the text entered ma
And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute
command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files' in
its Dash equivalent. Instead, it works through the list in that order: if
the text entered matches a command, then it's treated as a command (e.g.
"ping e
2011/9/27 Ian Santopietro
> Adding a 5th stop just makes it harder to get to it. The point of having
> the separate dashes, as I see it, is to provide very quick access to both
> pieces of very important functionality.
>
Alt-F2 will still be available. I suggested the *addition* of a way to move
On 26 September 2011 18:54, Evan Huus wrote:
> I use it regularly to kill or restart processes using the killall
> command, which allows you to specifiy a name rather than a PID. I also
> use it to spawn firefox with different -P profile options for testing
> add-ons. Neither of the cases I've men
Adding a 5th stop just makes it harder to get to it. The point of having the
separate dashes, as I see it, is to provide very quick access to both pieces
of very important functionality. As it stands, that goal is accomplished.
There isn't really a reason to switch from one to the other, since they
2011/9/27 James Jenner
> Not a big fan of using something like ~ or $ or # in a lens either.
>
>
That was my suggestion but it appears it keeps getting misunderstood. You'd
*never* have to type such strange symbols in the dash. That's insane.
What I suggested is adding a keyboard *shortcut* that
The question is why lump them together? They both provide two very different
functions and the shortcut differencebis sufficient to keep them separate.
The current implementation works. Why change it if it isn't broken?
On Sep 26, 2011 9:24 PM, "Juan Montoya" wrote:
> I wish there was no differen
I wish there was no difference between Dash search () Alt-F1 and
Alt-F2.
Both search panels look exactly the same, and should behave exactly the
same.
Why not something like?
Enter: Open the first search result
Ctrl-Enter: Run as a command
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> Well, this is mostly the way that Alt+F2 has worked for at least ten
> years, so there's really nothing new there. We used to have some options in
> the dialog, though, like run in terminal, run with file and select
> applications. None of those make sense to me. If I want to run something in
>
Den 27. sep. 2011 00:28, skrev James Jenner:
I tried the Alt-F2 and disliked it mainly because I have no way of
knowing if it worked and I have no way of stopping it if it's a
process like ping. One area I can see it being useful would be to
restart a service or stop/start a service. But when I
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, James Jenner wrote:
>
> On 27 September 2011 02:19, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> wrote:
>>
>> I have not proposed anything like that. That was someone else, and I
>> completely disagree with it. I don't want commands in the dash at all. They
>> do not belong there. I lik
On 27 September 2011 02:19, Jo-Erlend Schinstad <
joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not proposed anything like that. That was someone else, and I
> completely disagree with it. I don't want commands in the dash at all. They
> do not belong there. I like it just the way it is, but havin
Force of habit I guess.
On 09/26/2011 04:22 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
Den 26. sep. 2011 21:45, skrev anthropornis:
I tend to hit Ctrl+Shift+R in Thunderbird (reply all shortcut), it's
handy if you're checking multiple Gmail accounts via IMAP through
Thunderbird.
On 09/26/2011 11:28 AM,
well, I use the javascript gmail app (gmail.google.com) that causes that. in
any case, I hope people got my message about looking at how OS X impliments
sheets and how that can be applied to running terminal tasks to span not
only uses of running a simple command for no output, running one command
Den 26. sep. 2011 21:45, skrev anthropornis:
I tend to hit Ctrl+Shift+R in Thunderbird (reply all shortcut), it's
handy if you're checking multiple Gmail accounts via IMAP through
Thunderbird.
On 09/26/2011 11:28 AM, Gino Vincenzini wrote:
Ps. That's annoying that the reply address has to be m
I tend to hit Ctrl+Shift+R in Thunderbird (reply all shortcut), it's
handy if you're checking multiple Gmail accounts via IMAP through
Thunderbird.
On 09/26/2011 11:28 AM, Gino Vincenzini wrote:
Ps. That's annoying that the reply address has to be manually changed
to the mailing list address.
2011/9/26 Naba Kumar
> Hi Jo-Erlend,
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> wrote:
> > Den 26. sep. 2011 13:21, skrev Naba Kumar:
> >>
> >> y and is what others have pointed out. But what is there to lose if the
> >> two are done through same interface - without any lose of f
Hi Jo-Erlend,
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
wrote:
> Den 26. sep. 2011 13:21, skrev Naba Kumar:
>>
>> y and is what others have pointed out. But what is there to lose if the
>> two are done through same interface - without any lose of functionality of
>> either? Some subtle
Den 26. sep. 2011 13:21, skrev Naba Kumar:
y and is what others have pointed out. But what is there to lose if
the two are done through same interface - without any lose of
functionality of either? Some subtle difference between the two can be
brought in, such as like joerlend suggested with "
Ps. That's annoying that the reply address has to be manually changed to the
mailing list address.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Gino Vincenzini <
openmysourcec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Might I submit for your reading:
> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/She
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
wrote:
>
> On 09/22/2011 08:46 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
>>
>> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>>>
>>> Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
>>> from unity anyway? Is there a single
2011/9/26 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
> On 09/22/2011 08:46 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
>
>> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>>
>>> Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
>>> from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality who
On 09/22/2011 08:46 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm
directly from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this
functionality who doesn't have a terminal open all of the time anyway?
I think this was the best suggestion on this so far. It would add a
missing feature to Unity and bring more unity to Ubuntu desktop.
Eylem
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Stefanos A. wrote:
> 2011/9/22 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>>
>> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>>>
>>> Can someone ex
2011/9/22 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>
> Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
>> from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality who
>> doesn't have a terminal open all of the time anyway?
>>
>
> rm
Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm
directly from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this
functionality who doesn't have a terminal open all of the time anyway?
rm is a bad example. But being able to restart co
Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality
who doesn't have a terminal open all of the time anyway?
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Den 22. sep. 2011 15:08, skrev Naba Kumar:
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
wrote:
No, they're different things. The dash searches for applications and files.
Alt+f2 is to run a command. It is case sensitive and must be exact. It would
be very confusing if the dash gai
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
wrote:
> No, they're different things. The dash searches for applications and files.
> Alt+f2 is to run a command. It is case sensitive and must be exact. It would
> be very confusing if the dash gained that behaviour.
>
If you think about
On 09/22/2011 01:19 PM, Naba Kumar wrote:
Hi,
I use Alt+F2 a lot to launch apps and at the same time the "dash
search" to launch apps is an awesome feature. But in 11.10, Alt+f2 is
different from dash-search (although they look similar). Dash search
is where I click the ubuntu launcher, type the
No, they're different things. The dash searches for applications and
files. Alt+f2 is to run a command. It is case sensitive and must be
exact. It would be very confusing if the dash gained that behaviour.
Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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