Good point, Ian. I am convinced now that the dash must not absorb the functionality of the run dialog.
The dash should remain user-friendly, especially for new users. However, the behaviour I wanted would still be available through lenses? I don't know much about Unity lenses, and at first I thought it was the name for the transparent effect of the dash's background :$ 2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com>: > It is simple, but it isn't intuitive. > Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want > to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash > to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A new user should > never have to know what a command is, and if our "simple" launcher exposes > it to them, we've lost one battle right there. > You can't make it hidden either, since then it isn't clear what exactly will > be done, which is also bad design. With present and past Alt+F2 > implementations, you can always see what exactly will run when you press > enter. The old Gnome-panel Run Command dialog was dedicated to this. The new > Unity implementation does this and tells you visually what will happen by > presenting the command as a search result. > And, this would likely include removing the standard Alt+F2 access, since > having both would be redundant and bloated. This brings back the whole > problem that Unity's Alt+F2 solved in the first place. > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:54, Stefanos A. <stapos...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com> >>> >>> But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. >>> You can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without >>> any other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which >>> is a very different shortcut from Alt-F2, and not likely to be confused. It >>> is true they look identical and serve very different functions, but be cause >>> they are each accessed so differently, it's unlikely that a user would open >>> one when they meant to open the other. >> >> You are right, please replace all my "Alt-F1" references by "Super". >> That's what you get for writing without coffee in the morning. >> >> As for it being unlikely, I'd argue that it isn't. There are many times >> where I hit Super only to decide I'd rather enter a command rather than >> launch an application. Right now it's impossible to mode-switch easily, >> because you have to close and reopen the Dash. This fells ugly. >>> >>> And one might use "killall Thunderbird" to terminate Thunderbird if it >>> freezes. It was a rhetorical example, but the point is that sometimes it is >>> useful to run a command without opening a terminal, particularly if you >>> would then immediately close the terminal. >> >> Indeed, which is why I use the Alt-F2 prompt. What I am arguing for is a >> way to access Alt-F2 functionality from the main Dash. Several ways were >> presented. My favourite so far: Enter key launches application (as now); >> Ctrl+Enter interprets the text as a command. >> Simple and intuitive. > > > -- > Ian Santopietro > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > "Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast > Ofer middangeard monnum sended" > > Pa gur yv y porthaur? > Public GPG key > (RSA): http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
