Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread Roland Taylor
ne is used to it from web browser use. From: frederik.nn...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:35:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W) To: isan...@gm

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread nick rundy
From: frederik.nn...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:35:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W) To: isan...@gmail.com CC: nru...@hotmail.com; ayatana@lists.launchpad.net On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:58, Ian Santopietro wrote: I w

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread Chad Linton
> > > look at Unix interfaces from the past they have been not pretty but > functional back in the good old days we had XWM and applications written > different toolkits but they did not get in the users way and did not bog > the system. > > When given the idea of 'small is beautiful' - I'd also sa

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread Chad M. Germann
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 18:55 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:09, Chad M/ Germann > wrote: > > > The problem is and you don't see it is your trying to cram a > touch > interface on a Desktop OS. > > > i think human compu

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:09, Chad M/ Germann wrote: > > The problem is and you don't see it is your trying to cram a touch > interface on a Desktop OS. > i think human computer interaction has some basic rules which apply to all input devices that are pointer based. all pointers are emulations

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:39, SorinN wrote: > FInally I have to say the result is a > soup with no clear explanations for some resulting solutions - sorry > to say that but this is it. > > be more optimistic: our biogenetical evolution began in a soup, and see us now! ___

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread SorinN
how do you define Unix-like in 2011? Not Ayatana or Gnome Shell in any way - I am not crazy - in both of them Usability is a joke. Usability is the most honted and killed animal in Ayatana and Gnome Shell. 2 new prisons for Linux users - they have no options to turn back - but the Unix / Linux sh

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread Chad M/ Germann
Oh lovely a line by liner > Android has a Linux Kernel, WebOS runs on Linux, iOS is Unix-based, so > yeah. > To be Unix-like in my opinion has more to do with lower level concepts > and philosophy, it is less GUI related. > > > If a button is difficult to hit because it is too small a target a

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 20:59, Ian Santopietrowrote: Those are all great, but how do they relate to touch interfaces? Are touch interfaces inherently invalid in the eyes of the UNIX philosophy? This is ironic, since I believe well over 90% of touch-based OSs in use are UNIX-based. A

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
Those are all great, but how do they relate to touch interfaces? Are touch interfaces inherently invalid in the eyes of the UNIX philosophy? This is ironic, since I believe well over 90% of touch-based OSs in use are UNIX-based. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:50, Chad M/ Germann wrote: > On Tue, 2011

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-29 Thread Chad M/ Germann
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:52 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > how do you define Unix-like in 2011? In a nutshell Keep it Simple, Stupid. to expand. 1. Small is beautiful. 2. Make each program do one thing well. 3. Build a prototype as soon as possible. 4. Choose portabilit

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-29 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
how do you define Unix-like in 2011? On 2011-11-29, Chad M. Germann wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 23:35 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:58, Ian Santopietro >> wrote: >> it should be large enough to be easily targeted with a clumsy pointing >> device such as

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread Chad M. Germann
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 23:35 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:58, Ian Santopietro > wrote: > it should be large enough to be easily targeted with a clumsy pointing > device such as my hand. And this is Why Unity and Gnome Shell are The brunt of so many Jokes in t

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:58, Ian Santopietro wrote: > I would do it with a small "X" icon in the upper left (Or, simply allow > the use the use the window controls from the spread view). yes, that was planned at some point, sabdfl suggested a close button himself, i don't know what became of

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
It is possible to close all windows in an Application from the launcher (Right click > Quit). That said, the ability to close a window from spread would be minimally intrusive, and would speed up the process of closing only one window (i.e. a file manager) without having to focus it or close th

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi, On 28 November 2011 21:21, nick rundy wrote: > I'm finding it incredibly frustrating to use "Unity" because of the > inability to close windows without first having to open them first. With > previous gnome 2x I could right-click the window button in the taskbar > (gnome panel) and select "cl

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:21 PM, nick rundy wrote: > I'm finding it incredibly frustrating to use "Unity" because of the > inability to close windows without first having to open them first. With > previous gnome 2x I could right-click the window button in the taskbar > (gnome panel) and select "c

[Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread nick rundy
I'm finding it incredibly frustrating to use "Unity" because of the inability to close windows without first having to open them first. With previous gnome 2x I could right-click the window button in the taskbar (gnome panel) and select "close." With Windows 7 I can close a window via the popup