Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-17 Thread A. Casco
El lun, 17-01-2011 a las 17:54 -0500, Phong Cao Viet escribió: > I don't get that "service" VS "non-service" thing... for > example, I fully expect my mail app to be a "service-like" > application. I don't want to open the whole mail client "just > to see if I got m

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-17 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
I agree, because evoluton isn't super fast to start, nor to scan your mails box if your connexion isn't fast. I think, even if the "service type" isn't the default comportment, it should be an option. Kevin -- Envoyé depuis Ubuntu 10.10 Le lundi 17 janvier 2011 à 17:54 -0500, Phong Cao Viet a

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-17 Thread Phong Cao Viet
I agree! On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jean Levasseur wrote: > I don't get that "service" VS "non-service" thing... for example, I fully > expect my mail app to be a "service-like" application. I don't want to open > the whole mail client "just to see if I got mail", nor do i want to have it >

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-17 Thread Jean Levasseur
I don't get that "service" VS "non-service" thing... for example, I fully expect my mail app to be a "service-like" application. I don't want to open the whole mail client "just to see if I got mail", nor do i want to have it open at all times "just in case I recieve mail". I want to be notified w

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-17 Thread Conscious User
> Hey Vish and other, > As told in https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg04544.html, we > discussed that behavior at last UDS and it seems that emails shouldn't > be seen as a service. mpt will be able to develop it a little bit more > right now. One issue I'm now noticing at that blueprint disc

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-17 Thread Didier Roche
Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 à 14:57 +0530, Vishnoo a écrit : > On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 00:03 +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > On 21/12/10 15:08, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > > > Email notifications tell me when I need to have my email open. When > > > I'm done, I close my email app (which should NOT s

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-16 Thread Vishnoo
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 00:03 +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 21/12/10 15:08, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > > Email notifications tell me when I need to have my email open. When > > I'm done, I close my email app (which should NOT stop me from getting > > email notifications). When I get another noti

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-15 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Here's a great example of what I'm talking about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/478178: "Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application" This has got to be about the most common use-case for auto-startup. Right now, it's almost completely missing. Sess

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-05 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 09:25, Ted Gould wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:55 -0700, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > > So would you also expect that individual applications should manage > > their presence in the saved session as well? Then also their > > running-but-minimized-to-the-indicator-somehow st

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:55 -0700, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > So would you also expect that individual applications should manage > their presence in the saved session as well? Then also their > running-but-minimized-to-the-indicator-somehow status? In general, yes. Most applications already have

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-04 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 21:53, Ted Gould wrote: > Just FYI, the configuration is slightly different than you described (I > realize you weren't going for accuracy, but for the archive): > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/3832/how-to-remove-envelope-from-indicator-applet-without-uninstalling-the-in

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 11:36 -0700, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > My feeling is the root cause of this is closely tied to the missing UI > for deciding what is and isn't in the messaging menu (currently > managed by a config file in ~/.local/indicators/messaging/blacklist, > or something similarly obscu

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-04 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 02:27, Paul Sladen wrote: > How would this work with Hotmail/Gmail? These mail clients are highly > popular but there's going to need to be some cunning level of > integration to have that experience "just work". > Very important case that's largely unaddressed right now.

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-04 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 21/12/10 15:08, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > > Email notifications tell me when I need to have my email open. > We're in complete agreement - the mail client should happily run in the > background with no windows showing, How would this work with Hotma

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-04 Thread Didier Roche
Le mardi 04 janvier 2011 à 00:03 +, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit : > On 21/12/10 15:08, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > > Email notifications tell me when I need to have my email open. When > > I'm done, I close my email app (which should NOT stop me from getting > > email notifications). When I get anot

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-03 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey, Since you agree can you put someone onto it for us. I would probably do it myself but it seems like a good bit of work and I have exams next month and I dont know if the evolution upstream would accept the patch. --fagan On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 00:03 +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 21/12

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 21/12/10 15:08, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > Email notifications tell me when I need to have my email open. When > I'm done, I close my email app (which should NOT stop me from getting > email notifications). When I get another notification (which I don't > right now, because the previous step broke

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2010-12-21 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 07:11, wrote: > I agree that it makes sense for a gnome-panel desktop to have consistency > in things that "should" hide away in the messaging menu. > > But with unity, is it still useful to have apps that hide from the windows > list as it's now a launcher that can gracef

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2010-12-21 Thread A. Casco
El mar, 21-12-2010 a las 15:11 +0100, dav...@framli.eu escribió: > But with unity, is it still useful to have apps that hide from the > windows list as it's now a launcher that can gracefully handle a lot > of data without inducing visual clutter? > > Well, that's a good question, and I thing t

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2010-12-21 Thread davidc
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:28:24 -0300, Martín "A. Casco" wrote: > El mar, 21-12-2010 a las 14:06 +0100, Alket Rexhepi escribió: > >>> Among all applications currently integrated with the indicator-applet (Empathy/Pidgin, Evolution, Gwibber), Evolution is the only one without a close-to-tray fun

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2010-12-21 Thread A. Casco
El mar, 21-12-2010 a las 14:06 +0100, Alket Rexhepi escribió: > Among all applications currently integrated with the > indicator-applet (Empathy/Pidgin, Evolution, Gwibber), > Evolution is the only one without a close-to-tray > functionality. This is inconsistent as

[Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2010-12-21 Thread Alket Rexhepi
> > Among all applications currently integrated with the indicator-applet > (Empathy/Pidgin, Evolution, Gwibber), Evolution is the only one without a > close-to-tray functionality. This is inconsistent as it forces the user to > leave it open in order to use the indicator-applet properly. Close-to-