Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Andrew Laignel
Actually you can stick the windows bar on the left and get pretty much the same effect as unity. Looking at my colleagues W7 machine (I have a Mac) running Firefox 4, maximized it has tabs-on-top with no menu. You can do dock-on-the-left with OSX too. I think the thinking behind the bar at the b

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Andrew Laignel
There are several large, glaring, problems with the global menu as I see it: Menu's are outdated. It's clear from the last few years that menus as we know it are playing a more diminished role. Large amounts of applications simply don't use them as they are largely a crutch for poor UI design.

Re: [Ayatana] Menu bar integrated in title bar in Unity

2011-02-18 Thread Andrew Laignel
*Cough* https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Firefox-4-Mockup-i06-%28Win7%29-%28Aero%29-%2 8TabsTop%29.png *cough* :) On 18/02/2011 12:45, "Luke Benstead" wrote: >On 18 February 2011 12:25, Luke Benstead wrote: >> On 18 February 2011 11:10, David Stevenson wrote: >>> On 18/02/11 04:38, Greg K Nicho

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu on the Desktop

2010-11-01 Thread Andrew Laignel
One thought on the global menu is one of scope. Window controls, tab controls and many other actions, as a general rule, only affect things within their indicated container. A tab control that affects things outside of it's scope is bad as it invites unpredictability into the behaviour, it's for

Re: [Ayatana] OMG!Ubuntu a bane or a boon? [was]Re: The new default wallpaper

2010-08-29 Thread Andrew Laignel
You want to see unbridled rude criticism of a level that the upstream developers will never ever experience? Search for the word 'Microsoft' on a FOSS website. Dealing with criticism is simply part of the job and if (the hopefully few) developers upsteam are taking offence then that is something

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu

2010-08-16 Thread Andrew Laignel
On 16/08/2010 16:50, "Dylan McCall" wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Laignel > wrote: >> It seems to me, UI wise anyway, that there is a movement away from having a >> traditional program menu.  The most recent browsers (FF, Chrome, IE) have >

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu

2010-08-16 Thread Andrew Laignel
It seems to me, UI wise anyway, that there is a movement away from having a traditional program menu. The most recent browsers (FF, Chrome, IE) have buried it and in applications such as media players and basic photo managers it's also getting sidelined as it tends to be more of a junkstore than a

Re: [Ayatana] Time & Date indicator settings dialog

2010-08-07 Thread Andrew Laignel
Can I make an observation on the date/time control? I found that the calendars on a large amount of my public facing terminals kept having the wrong date and eventually tracked it down to the fact that people often want to know what day it is on a certain date, so they used the default Windows XP