Re: [Ayatana] Thoughts on Unity design

2011-05-23 Thread Ed Lin
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, David Regev wrote: > I have yet to see an actual study arguing against the efficiency of global > menus, not even for large modern monitors. If you want to take the return > trip into account and other such factors, feel free to do so. The > preliminary calculation

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Re: Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-05-23 Thread Ed Lin
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: >> Altogether four icons which I think would leave room enough for app >> icons on smaller screens. > > Do you really think that? Four launchers are in my view a lot of extra > launchers. What I tried to achieve with my design was that it

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Re: Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-05-23 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
2011/5/23 Ed Lin > This would give us a very consistent and structured layout. The > launcher would consist of icons all having the same size (including > the BFB) and the context- menu/dash/lenses would all follow the same > theme and design. That's exactly the problem I tried to address. I wa

Re: [Ayatana] Thoughts on Unity design

2011-05-23 Thread Ed Lin
I already said this but I'll repeat it to prevent being misunderstood: I maintain that Fitts's Law is absolutely accurate and helpful for what it describes. The problem is that it doesn't describe all factors necessary for a full assessment and is often applied in a too simple and linear (literally

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Mockup v3

2011-05-23 Thread Henrik Peytz
The purpose would be more space to move around on, place windows there etc. If the Global menu is made redundant by a menu-toggler, then there's no reason to waste about 25x(x-resolution) of pixels drawing a panel that is only used when an application is maximized. From a purely personal view I'd r

[Ayatana] Unity Mockup v3

2011-05-23 Thread Henrik Peytz
Here's my third round of mockups based on some of the ideas floating around. -- Particular ideas visualized: http://fav.me/d3h14ui <-- Global-menu has turned into Maximode-menu, it is only visible when a window is maximized, and it only shows the menus of the maximized window, NEV

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Re: Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-05-23 Thread Remco
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:26, Ed Lin wrote: > Here's an idea I just had: we could put icons next to each other, in > violation of Fitts's Law, when we have a single menu for all of them > which can be accessed by clicking on anywhere on the area, from screen > edge to launcher edge. Just going o

Re: [Ayatana] Thoughts on Unity design

2011-05-23 Thread David Regev
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 08:05, Ed Lin wrote: > W in this context depends on acceleration curve and distance, it's not > fixed! That's the reason one may be tempted to start calculating with > infinity and mathematically speaking its use is absolutely correct. "You are > not supposed to" doesn't

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Re: Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-05-23 Thread Ed Lin
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > Here is the mockup: > http://i.imgur.com/sl8k6.png > If this won't work then maybe we could just move the whole top panel to the > bottom of the screen and have a "intellihide" function for it or merge it > with the launcher: > http://i.i

Re: [Ayatana] Thoughts on Unity design

2011-05-23 Thread Ed Lin
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:28 PM, David Regev wrote: > The equation doesn’t break down here because you’re not supposed to put in > ∞. Although the edge may theoretically be infinitely long, it’s not in > practice. Any human being aiming at the edge will stop within a certain > distance past the e

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher Icon for Compiz Scale Plugin

2011-05-23 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
I posted a launcher design sketch on how the workspace switcher/scale could be better implemented into the launcher in the Global menu in Oneric Ocelot (11.10) thread. Take a look! 2011/5/22 Ed Lin > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist > wrote: > > 2011/5/20 Ed Lin > >> alterna