Re: [Ayatana] [Ayatana-dev] Unity and tooltips

2010-10-20 Thread Conscious User
Frederik, I think you are confusing things. Vish didn't say the intention was to eliminate each and every textual information possible, just the tooltips. The bad situation is when an unclear icon tries to solve its unclearness by adding a tooltip. The problem is extra, unnecessary text, not

Re: [Ayatana] [Ayatana-dev] Unity and tooltips

2010-10-20 Thread David Hamm
if you really don't like the thick top then make it skinny like shell, their icon over text was pretty nice even in small format. Sorry for blurring into the subject. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.n

Re: [Ayatana] [Ayatana-dev] Unity and tooltips

2010-10-20 Thread David Hamm
"why does the appmenu consist of words still?" Exactly! the app-menu imo is dead, free the top space to applications and be done with it. Let the apps build into it. Of course this presents a bit of a problem considering the odd shape of the top space... j.mp/9BWbAi Single bar unity or waste more

Re: [Ayatana] Does the new ubiquity offer confusing options during “side-by-side” installs?

2010-10-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hi there, i agree, this place is appropriate, we discussed the live cd's dialogs before, its interaction and it's definitely usability, so it's Ayatana. of course Ivanka was right and with time Ubiquity will turn into what it should be: a tool to turn every machine into Ubuntu.. On 2010-10-19, La

Re: [Ayatana] [Ayatana-dev] Unity and tooltips

2010-10-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
instead we chose to use symbolic icons? why does the appmenu consist of words still? this is totally inconsistent with the other indicators and makes no sense from a interaction point of view. if we are trying to replace blunt primary school orthography with metaphors in formal symbolic language,

Re: [Ayatana] (In)sensitive menu itens for displaying information

2010-10-20 Thread cmaglothin
Even with just 3 it would be better, as your previously copied data is still there so you wouldn't be endlessly frustrated. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:49 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com < frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:43, cmaglothin wrote: > >> Why not try this: >> >

Re: [Ayatana] (In)sensitive menu itens for displaying information

2010-10-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:43, cmaglothin wrote: > Why not try this: > > 1. Instead of having the obscure "copy track data" feature, why not > simplify the buttons in indicator-sound to something like > http://imgur.com/ueC7X.jpg and add a fourth button indicating that it will > copy the data to