Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
Peter Lee wrote: Hello guys, I would like to ask what IDEs on the web have the ability to maintain/import/export an antoconf-based project? I am expecting a list of them, if there are. Thank you P the old kdevelop (pre 4) used to support autotools; otherwise there's an eclipse plugin: http

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Lee
Thanks Lorenzo Bettini :) Any other suggestions ? Thank you !! P On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > Peter Lee wrote: >> >> Hello guys, >> >> I would like to ask what IDEs on the web have the ability to >> maintain/import/export an antoconf-based project? >> >> I am expect

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Lee
Let me ask the same question in a different way. If I want to work on the GNU Hello project, which can be downloaded at http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/hello/hello-2.4.tar.gz, what IDEs can I use to import the project and export it as deployable project( configure->make) after some dependency and code chan

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Philip Herron
Hey My personal opinion is whats the point. I find if your serious about C/C++ autotools forttran or any language really etc. IDE's are just a waste of time. I use emacs for all my coding and its far superior, and vim is good too if you dont like emacs. IDE's try to do too much for you and e

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Lee
Hi Lorenzo Bettini, Thank you for your opinion. "My personal opinion is whats the point." To answer this question, I would like to use a sentence from your own reply with some hacking ;P >From sentence --- "I used to use netbeans for java, because to do java you spend most of your time looking

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
If I want to work on the GNU Hello project, which can be downloaded at http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/hello/hello-2.4.tar.gz, what IDEs can I use to import the project and export it as deployable project( configure->make) after some dependency and code changes? A normal text editor. Automake,

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Lee
Thank you Alfred M. Szmidt, I am confirming with you on my awareness of "Automake, and autoconf are just plain text files, you don't need a complex IDE to edit them. The documentation is also very easy to navigate" But, my question is: "If I want to work on the GNU Hello project, which can be do

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Frank Lahm
2009/7/16 Peter Lee : > Thank you Alfred M. Szmidt, > > I am confirming with you on my awareness of > "Automake, and autoconf are just plain text > files, you don't need a complex IDE to edit them.  The documentation > is also very easy to navigate" > > But, my question is: > "If I want to work on

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Christophe-Marie Duquesne
>I can highly recommend the emacs IDE. And I can recommend the vim IDE =) I wonder if there are actually a lot of programmers who used the autotools in IDEs and did not came back to classic text editors. ___ Autoconf mailing list Autoconf@gnu.org http

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
(OT) Christophe-Marie Duquesne wrote: > I wonder if there are actually a lot of programmers who used the > autotools in IDEs and did not came back to classic text editors. We have a few working with Microsoft Visual Studio and have automake rules for GNU Make (which IMHO is a kind of functional p

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread John Calcote
Hi Peter and Christophe-Marie, On 7/16/2009 9:28 AM, Christophe-Marie Duquesne wrote: I wonder if there are actually a lot of programmers who used the autotools in IDEs and did not came back to classic text editors. In my experience, there is little need for an IDE when writing C/C++ prog

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Christophe-Marie Duquesne writes: > I wonder if there are actually a lot of programmers who used the > autotools in IDEs and did not came back to classic text editors. It's probably worth saying this explicitly, since Peter may or may not be aware of it: Emacs has nearly all of the features that

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Philip Herron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey John Calcote wrote: > In my experience, there is little need for an IDE when writing C/C++ > programs, as the standard library is fairly small. Perhaps an IDE is > helpful during early learning stages of these languages, but one > quickly becomes

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread David Bruce
Hi, Speaking as someone who was both IDE-dependent and new to autotools about three years ago, I can say that KDevelop has worked well, except that I have progressively shifted to just using it as a nice tabbed editor and file selector. I found that it was way easier to just use the console at t

Re: What IDEs support autoconf-based projects ?

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Lee
Thank you all ! To answer my own question: >I would like to ask what IDEs on the web have the ability to >maintain/import/export an antoconf-based project? > >I am expecting a list of them, if there are. >From the current thread, this list can be: kdevelop, eclipse, emacs, vim, microsoft visual

Autotest: how stable?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
Autotest seems like a useful test framework. It is more complete for my purposes than the simple framework included with Automake 1.10 (although 1.11 does have a few nice new features), so I'm thinking about using it in a couple of projects. However, the warning about Autotest in the Autoconf man