Howdy,
Today I received a sternly worded email reminding me to pay my ARIN
invoice. Know what the email did not include? An invoice. Know what I
need to pay the invoice? An invoice.
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ded interactions with the outregion transfer
policy. Gets slippery if a non-practicing entity can set up in the
middle.
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on the basis that they have
no IP addresses (having disposed of the unnecessarily large block) and
have actual control of the requested block anyway.
Why would ARIN need to fiddle with conditional approvals and uncertain
timelines for the renumbering dance?
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ht?
Semi-related question: Does ARIN publish anywhere which RIRs it deems
to "share reciprocal, compatible, needs-based policies" under section
8.4?
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mber
resources to ARIN."
I don't see an "or let you keep the extra number resources' in there.
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s not a MUST then it's
operational guidance that doesn't belong in a POLICY document at all.
> The AC has tried to fix this text a few times, and perhaps we haven't done a
> good enough job.
You think?
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action involving the owner of
the physical network using them?
'Cause if you don't think that then maybe let's get that stray
sentence the heck out of there.
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 19:11 , William Herrin wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> Perhaps, in part, because some of us think that the RSA is what is broken
>>> rather than the lang
efficiently
utilized after the transfer can occur in parallel, completely
independently of the transfer request, and can continue even if the
transfer request is abandoned."
Still think renumbering to achieve efficient utilization as a
consequence of the 8.2 transfer wasn't intended
rn to satisfy policy.
Owen,
Minimal renumbering is still renumbering. Especially if there's some
minority where the renumbering isn't minimal. The policy's renumbering
requirement was there all along; I didn't insert it or "read it into
things."
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obably won't follow its policy as written because no one knows for
know for sure whether they really meant it that way.
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#x27;t engage you with the relocated goal post. If you
are correct, the 8.2 transfer language requires a registrant whose
addresses are assigned and in use but not efficiently used per ARIN
standards to engage some degree of renumbering as consequence of the
transfer.
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette
wrote:
> In message
>
> William Herrin wrote:
>>Sorry Owen, I won't engage you with the relocated goal post. If you
>>are correct, the 8.2 transfer language requires a registrant whose
>>addresses are assigne
at offer best practices for
compliance.
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no, it does not resolve my concern.
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ell ARIN the addresses had been transferred to a new
organization.
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f documents; one more that requires no action
beyond a signature and a token payment is no big deal. If the lawyers
choked on it, I'd probably go back to plan-A but it would at least get
past me to the lawyers.
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instances
of non-binding "community expectations" that we can all safely ignore?
It seems to me like this sort of thing is undesirable in an
otherwise-binding policy document.
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rver which happened
to have IP addresses could indeed be surprising.
> 2) ARIN has previously reported that POC validation to reassignments causes
> tremendous work for the staff. It receives many angry phone calls and emails
> about the POC validation process.
Sounds suspiciously like a commun
.
Expliciting checking the direct POCs is of more limited value. ARIN
will either have a reachable billing POC or will soon be reclaiming
addresses. If one non-technical POC is accurate, odds are the org's
other POCs are usable too.
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on't
> do them and 2) do them wrong.
Just so.
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new POC email address via SWIP, regardless of any policy change.
Acquiring the IP address block and receiving the first contact from
ARIN should be temporally connected.
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rants continue to abuse bothers me.
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agree to a contract in order to verify ARIN's
https web site certificate. Absurdity!
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y. Maybe another organization should be created to
manage RPKI in North America, one which doesn't suffer ARIN's mindset.
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:13 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:47 AM, William Herrin wrote:
>> Is ARIN the right place for an RPKI registry? They seem... reluctant.
> ARIN is actually quite active in development, promotion, and support
> of RPKI services – please
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:20 PM, John Curran wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 12:29 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> As you are aware, we provide legacy resource holders the same registry
>>> services (including ability to update Whois contact info, reverse DNS, etc.)
>>>
conversant enough about RIPE practices and policies
to offer argument about what you said. I don't even know if RIPE
maintains registrations which are "legacy" in the ARIN sense of the
word -- such registrations predated the creation of current RIRs
including ARIN and RIPE.
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everybody is in a position to certify the resource holdings.
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:35 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>
>> Contractually you do not own addresses allocated to you through ARIN's
>> transfer process. In the Registration Services Agreement you signed yo
o an IPv4 /32. If we then want
"equivalence" to the /29 policy so that individuals with the minimum and
near-minimum assignment do not need to be SWIPed, it makes sense to move
the next subnetting level up. In IPv6, assignment is strongly recommended
on nibble boundaries, so that mean
is absolutely positively 100% wrong. Doing so
prevents the end user from configuring their local lans as IPv6 is
designed. They need at least a /60 for that. If you are assigning /64's to
end users, you are doing it wrong.
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wrote:
> Someone want to remind us all of what the "benefits" of SWIP are?
>
Transparency. I refer you to Google Search for the myriad benefits of
transparency.
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" because I believe that would
encourage ISPs to engage in unhealthy assignment practices to avoid SWIP
reporting, such as assigning /64s, /61s and /57s.
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actually be a terrible idea. Two masters and all that.
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pinion that if nobody minds, it doesn't matter. Thus I'd like
to see complaint-triggered review of SWIP compliance with some kind of
"reasonable" threshold for honest error and some kind of escalating penalty
for repeat offense. Is that policy or business practice?
Regards,
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> On 15 Jun 2017, at 5:16 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>
> I'm of the opinion that if nobody minds, it doesn't matter. Thus I'd like
> to see complaint-triggered review of SWIP compliance with some kind of
> &qu
han /48" and "/47 or larger" are ruled out by /48's
independent routability (also a technical consideration) and /64 is ruled
out for preventing the intended end-user IPv6 routing ability (also a
technical consideration), that leaves "larger than" /52, /56 and /60 as th
l trouble here.
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not set or even recommend routing policy. Participants in the
ARIN policy process routinely consider industry routing practices, IETF
recommendations, etc. when suggesting ARIN address management policy and
ARIN routinely enacts such policy.
Right?
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te BGP prefixes longer than (less than) a /32. The
last holdout gave up a couple years ago; standard practice is now /48. It's
unlikely to change to anything longer than a /48, ever.
IPv6 RDNS has always worked at any CIDR level and continues to work most
cleanly at any nibble b
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:02 PM, William Herrin wrote:
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>
>> I would prefer to give my residential users a /48 for the future but a /56
>>
> Hi Paul,
>
> This is acceptable under current ARIN policy and would remai
proposals and outright oppose
permitting /48 reassignments to be made without SWIP under any
circumstances.
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to review the address assignment upon
changing the routing segment except to the extent of verifying the a
routable-size block was assigned. Probability of non-compliance even by
those who intend to comply is high.
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registrants. Which the text of
this proposal clearly does.
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> numbers?
Hi Rudolph,
Under ARIN rules, there is no need for separate AS numbers. I can't
speak for RIPE or LACNIC rules, or for any rules imposed by your
upstream network providers.
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to the transfer and share reciprocal, compatible
> needs-based policies."
I think this text is clumsy and it does not fit well with the rest of
section 8.4 which focuses on IPv4 addresses.
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and it remains true now that net neutrality has been revoked.
So, this is off topic here; ARIN doesn't do routing and transit. NANOG
is probably a better forum for its discussion. But you asked...
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Can we not express our thoughts with
words?
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0/year is the ISP price which includes voting membership in ARIN.
That rate would cover both /24s and the AS number, so its $500 total
not $500 each.
See https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html section "End Users
Paying Per Resource"
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air to expect older registrants to
accept an adhesion contract whose compulsive nature was not so much as
a gleam in anyone's eye when they joined the ranks of TCP/IP users.
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t.
4. Why are you still using "challenge questions?" Do you not
understand that keeping PII about someone without strong necessity is
a recipe for identity theft?
5. When I finally created an account I logged in... and the first page
failed to display in Firefox.
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ney
could simply fund ARIN, reducing the fees for as long as it happens to
last.
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d moves to /22, I promise to say I told you so.
The situation calls for a proactive solution. You don't thwart a
hacker by taking away the lowest of the low hanging fruit and
expecting that's good enough. It doesn't work.
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What about something like: "Organization records shall be created only by
an individual named as the organization's point of contact. Vendors shall
not create organization records on their customers' behalf."
I reached a milestone late last month... My ARIN POC handle is a q
se the proposed policy, but I think it reasonable for us to
occasionally discuss and evaluate whether ARIN should be Internet-Cop in
some novel new way. And re-evaluate whether it should continue to act as
routing cop in the ways it currently does. The AC need not protect us from
that discussion.
onclusion that the proposal
is out of scope.
I see no way in which it provides anything but additional risk to the
> organization while failing to offer any actual benefit to the community.
>
A conclusion I hope the community reaches after a full and fair
consideration of the proposal on its
o and discussed the
proposal's details.
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That's why folks like me believe we own our IP addresses.
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he contractual impediments currently put a lot of
people off. The problem is, ARIN is super afraid that they'll get sued over
it if they don't demand those contractual impediments from their
participants. Considering what happened to MAPS, it's not an unfounded fear.
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al
right to cryptographically verify routing announcements for ARIN-controlled
addresses using RPKI. You can't just do it the way you just look up a
registration in whois.
https://www.arin.net/resources/manage/rpki/tal/
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I believe them.
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e wrong tree here. ARIN can't exercise any authority
the network operators don't consent to it exercising. It's that simple...
and that complicated. You have to convince a usefully large number of
network owners that they SHOULD cede ARIN new authority in this matter.
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5355-a8b3-c8f8c70a439e.html
This is indeed interesting and good news. One thing about the article
confuses me: what precedent was set here? That ARIN can enforce a signed,
written contract as normal under the law? Was that ever in doubt?
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> of ARIN region" by the fraudsters have exceeded what they were ordered to
> pay?
Hmm. That wasn't in the story. Do you happen to have the link?
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rdered payment. How
many did ARIN decide not to reclaim because the recipients did not appear
to be part of the fraud? If it was more than 3% then you could reasonably
say the guy got away with it.
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. Unless that question is not yet settled?
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:P
Pretty cool that the indictment has the complete list of addresses and when
they were allocated.
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tle more utility from IPv4. Which
is smart.
It might also be useful to take back the majority of 224/4. Time has made
it crystal clear that multicast isn't as useful as we thought it would be.
We don't need that many multicast addresses.
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part of this overall Micfo fraud were *not* even bloody registered
> in the states they claimed to be headquartered in, either now or,
> EVEN AT THE TIME WHEN ARIN WAS ISSUING THEM RESOURCES.
>
They were so-called "aged shelf companies.&quo
s it,
something is a little off with your application.
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Note that lo inside the namespace is down and has no ip address.
Of course, changing the startup scripts on every deployed Linux box is not
a particularly smaller task than changing the kernel.
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ing transit. But that's such a ridiculously low bar to meet it's not
worth wasting ARIN staff resources to evaluate it. Unless we make it such a
high bar to meet that it actually impedes ordinary Internet business. Which
would be even worse.
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e behavior
underpinning the terminology remains entirely legitimate.
> An ASN received IP space to assign to other scenarios different from
> this, not to lease to someone other ASN announce pretending the first one
is a RIR.
For better or for worse that is factually incorrect.
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I think I have a solution. It involves distributing the auction revenues to
ARIN's paying registrants.
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the proposal -as written- but I support the
concept of eliminating the waiting list and disposing of recovered
addresses some other way. Heck, donate them to the other RIRs. They're
gonna get them via transfers anyway.
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me. Otherwise, why couldn't you transfer
the resources to the home RIR?
I'd like to hear why it's not. In general, public policy which facilitates
forum shopping is bad public policy which results in capricious application
of the rules.
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is not basically doing ARIN's job
but for more money and with less oversight?
Serious question; not meant to be rhetorical. I want to hear what sort of
address leasing independent of connectivity is not the job ARIN is tasked
with.
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quot; What are the "needs" which fail to be justified?
Let's try to ground this a little better. Can you suggest (with details and
specificity) a hypothetical case where the customer's use of IP addresses
is obviously reasonable and leasing addresses independ
here there is a plausible reason to believe someone is gaming the system
or just generally being careless and wasteful, that's where I want to see
limits and strict evaluation.
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> On 12/10/2019 13:58, William Herrin wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 6:29 AM wrote:
>>>> I agree. The only reason for this transfer thing was the shortage of
IPv4
>>>> addresses and 16 bit ASN numbe
declaring the
conditions under which they would offer or accept transfers with other
RIRs. Where both RIRs' conditions are met, the transfer can happen.
It's not obvious to me why we'd need to do anything more coordinated here.
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here but some words have precise legal meanings.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
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William Herrin
b...@herrin.us
https://bil
can write around the problem.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
--
William Herrin
b...@herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/
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