Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 09:14 +1000, John Newbigin wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > >>"I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one" > > > > > > You make it sound like this is trivial functionality - it's not! Lots

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 02:20 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > My top wish on the wishlist is to never have a language whose parser > reports no errors. What are you talking about? The ALSA configuration parser certainly does report errors. Lee -

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:14:25 +1000 John Newbigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > >>"I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one" > > > > > > You make it sound like this is trivial functional

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-23 Thread John Newbigin
Lee Revell wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: "I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one" You make it sound like this is trivial functionality - it's not! Lots of work by alsa-lib is required to transparently upmix stereo to 5.1 while hand

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-23 Thread Pete
Hello again! Another question to this topic. The upmix works fine now, but is it possible to upmix the micro-input too? greets, peter --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 08:42:24 +0900 Joel Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:37:49PM +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > My point is that in Perl one can compute configuration > > data inside the config file, and then just to export it. > > Maybe someone is up to writing

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 08:42 +0900, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:37:49PM +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > My point is that in Perl one can compute configuration > > data inside the config file, and then just to export it. > > Maybe someone is up to writing a tool that can gene

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:37:49PM +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > My point is that in Perl one can compute configuration > data inside the config file, and then just to export it. Maybe someone is up to writing a tool that can generate .asoundrc files for a a small subset of common cases based

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Pete
Hey! I could kiss you :D Just kidding It works now!!! Thank you very much greets, peter David Bell wrote: Here are the lines from my .asoundrc file for stereo to 5.1 ch upmix I run a SB Audigy 24bit so i would assume that it would be similar. pcm.ch51dup { type route

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 23:37 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > My point is that in Perl one can compute configuration > data inside the config file, and then just to export it. > This is getting a little OT, it would not help with the problem at hand (the complexity of layering dmix, upmix, and lad

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:17:39 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 23:11 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > > The main point of my reply was to suggest the developers not invent > > languages in case the existing ones can serve the purpose. > > > > Relying on exis

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 23:11 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > Until this post of yours I wasn't even aware of the Windows > functionality > you mention. Well, I don't know the full details, but it seems that most windows drivers do it these days. Creative calls their proprietary implementation "C

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 23:11 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > The main point of my reply was to suggest the developers not invent > languages in case the existing ones can serve the purpose. > > Relying on existing languages greatly increases the amount of > developers who would volunteer to wri

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:59:02 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > "I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one" > > You make it sound like this is trivial functionality - it's not! Lots > of work by alsa-li

RE: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 19:57 +, David Bell wrote: > Here are the lines from my .asoundrc file for stereo to 5.1 ch upmix > > I run a SB Audigy 24bit so i would assume that it would be similar. > > > pcm.ch51dup { > type route > slave.pcm surround51 > slave.channels 6 >

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > "I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one" You make it sound like this is trivial functionality - it's not! Lots of work by alsa-lib is required to transparently upmix stereo to 5.1 while handling multiple streams a

RE: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread David Bell
Here are the lines from my .asoundrc file for stereo to 5.1 ch upmix I run a SB Audigy 24bit so i would assume that it would be similar. pcm.ch51dup { type route slave.pcm surround51 slave.channels 6 ttable.0.0 0.9 ttable.1.1 0.9 ttable.0.2 0.75

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > "I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one" > > :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) > > - it was the funniest admission by an ALSA developer I ever read in > this > list. > I am not exactly "an ALSA developer"

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:09:30 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > a) doesn't ALSA support LADSPA ? > > b) does ALSA config language support insertion of LADSPA plugins > > into only one channel (LFE in this case) ? > > > > S

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > Cant' anyone write a cheat-sheet meanwhile ? > > For example, it can be built like this: > > 1) a working config file for a widely known card is given, and also > a version of it with line numbers; > > 2) the cheat-sheet describes what

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > a) doesn't ALSA support LADSPA ? > b) does ALSA config language support insertion of LADSPA plugins > into only one channel (LFE in this case) ? > Sure it does, but I have yet to see a working config, and I don't understand .asoundrc sy

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:47:33 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 21:14 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > > And what about putting the answer on ALSA documentation site - it's > > an FAQ IMHO. > > Because it's too complicated for average users and would lead to

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 21:14 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > And what about putting the answer on ALSA documentation site - it's > an FAQ IMHO. Because it's too complicated for average users and would lead to more confusion, and there's still no 100% solution (I have yet to see a working confi

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:45:08 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 19:16 +0200, Pete wrote: > > Hello List ;) > > I have a Creative Soundblaster Live! 24-bit 7.1 Soundcard and a 5.1 > > Soundsystem. > > The sound works fine, but i wan't the Stereo-sound on all speake

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 19:16 +0200, Pete wrote: > Hello List ;) > I have a Creative Soundblaster Live! 24-bit 7.1 Soundcard and a 5.1 > Soundsystem. > The sound works fine, but i wan't the Stereo-sound on all speakers. > I searched a while with google and i tried several .asoundrc-"versions", > bu