Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core

2011-12-18 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 08:31:45PM +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > Hi guys, > > It seems that Mario is very busy and cannot answer. I would like to > help, however everybody knows that my technical skills are limited, so I > can't take a decision and test beyond the user point of view. >

Re: Recovering accessibility after partial Gnome 3 upgrade in testing

2011-12-14 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 05:04:22PM +1100, Jason White wrote: > On my laptop, I upgraded to the latest testing a few weeks ago and > unintentionally acquired Gnome 3 packages. Gnome-shell is not installed, but > when X is started we get an "activities" screen. Orca is not executed > automaticall

please upload the latest at-spi2 and gnome-orca to unstable

2011-12-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Could one of the debian maintainers please upload the latest versions of gnome-orca and at-spi2 to unstable? Other packages of gnome 3.2 are already appearing in unstable, so it would be helpful to have the latest accessibility packages available in Debian. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: help returning to gnome fallback

2011-12-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 12:11:34PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Kenny Hitt (30/11/2011): > > Hi. After the last upgrade my default session has changed to gnome > > shell. […] > > Hi Kenny, > > I just asked on #debian-gnome, it appears gnome 3.0 is basically l

help returning to gnome fallback

2011-11-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. After the last upgrade my default session has changed to gnome shell. This makes my gnome session useless. After i hear orca say "welcome to orca", I get no more feedback from the system. Would someone sighted please provide me instructions on how to return to an accessible gnome? I haven

Re: Bug#649503: Please package last version and upload it to unstable

2011-11-22 Thread Kenny Hitt
interfaces), alt-tab has a slightly > different behavior, the access to the categories via keyboard isn't > warrantied. Can we trust in gnome3? > > Thanks for your ans9er. I'm worry I have to say. > > Best regards, > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > Le mer

Bug#649503: Please package last version and upload it to unstable

2011-11-22 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Actually python-pyatspi and python-pyatspi2 provide the same interface on one side, but interface to different and not conpatibal releases of at-spi. Eventually, python-pyatspi2 and at-spi2 will become the default, but at-spi2 still has bugs not found in at-spi. Kenny On Mon, Nov

Bug#649503: Please package last version and upload it to unstable

2011-11-22 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Actually python-pyatspi and python-pyatspi2 provide the same interface on one side, but interface to different and not conpatibal releases of at-spi. Eventually, python-pyatspi2 and at-spi2 will become the default, but at-spi2 still has bugs not found in at-spi. Kenny On Mon, Nov

help creating a stand alone firefox session.

2011-11-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. The latest gnome 3 upgrades in Sid have broken my major reason for running gnome. My default application launched when I right click a link in the gnome terminal has been changed to gnome web browzer from firefox. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to change it back. Could someone who lau

Re: pulseaudio in Wheezy

2011-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
it takes is an accessibility failure like this or a security > failure and the operating system fails the test fast. > > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > Hi. I have no problem fixing things when pulseaudio breaks it. My only > > reason for starting this thread &g

Re: pulseaudio in Wheezy

2011-09-28 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I have no problem fixing things when pulseaudio breaks it. My only reason for starting this thread was to get this finally addressed officially in Debian for new users. It won't look good for Debian to have access to the installer only to loose it when the new system reboots. Ke

Re: pulseaudio in Wheezy

2011-09-28 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 02:55:34PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > > aptitude hold pulseaudio > should prevent it from being installed in the future. The documentation says > that "hold" prevents upgrades, but it seems to prevent installation as well. > Thanks for the info. I posted to try to fi

pulseaudio in Wheezy

2011-09-28 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. My upgrade broke my access to my system again. As usual, the problem was pulseaudio. The pulseaudio upgrade added itself to my gnome session. The result was loss of speech with orca and espeakup. My solution was to killall -9 pulseaudio and purge pulseaudio from my system. Although this fixe

Re: Temporary fix for at-spi2 in experimental

2011-08-12 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:15:46PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > does /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so exist when the at-spi 2 > packages are installed? > Yes, it exists. Dlocate says it is part of at-spi and aptitude says at-spi is uninstalled. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Temporary fix for at-spi2 in experimental

2011-08-11 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 04:47:48PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > I am assuming you had python-atspi2 and libatk-bridge from experimental > installed when you tried this? > Additionally, I guess you did try relogin after enabling the gconf > setting? > Yes, python-pyatspi2 and libatk-adaptor are i

Re: Temporary fix for at-spi2 in experimental

2011-08-11 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. That didn't fix it here. Kenny On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:47:09PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > Hi. > > I finally found why at-spi2 in experimental is not working as expected: > We are missing a gconf schema which would tell gnome_settings_daemon > that the atk-bridge GTK module needs

Re: gnome-terminal broken again

2011-08-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:57:22PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Kenny Hitt (02/08/2011): > > How does a package contain a file that's supposed to be part of > > another package? > > Well, that's a module which uses libatk's features, which is why you &g

Re: gnome-terminal broken again

2011-08-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 08:46:59PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Actually, no. the libatk-adaptor package depends on atk. The atk module > > should be part of gtk 2.0 as well as gtk 3.0. > > At least that's what I understand from read

Re: gnome-terminal broken again

2011-08-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
hi. On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 08:07:18PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > More important, not sure why there isn't an atk module for gtk3 since I > > thought it was required. > > I'm sure there is one in AT-SPI 2. It's part of the AT-SPI p

Re: gnome-terminal broken again

2011-08-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 07:38:56PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Thanks, the symlink was my problem. Once I got it right, gnome-terminal > > works again. > > This is off-topic for the list, but whenever you want to search a directory > hiera

Re: gnome-terminal broken again

2011-08-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 05:56:15PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. I returned to at-spi 1.0. My gnome is now accessible again except for > > gnome-terminal. When I started looking, I noticed there isn't an atk > > module in > > /usr/l

gnome-terminal broken again

2011-08-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I returned to at-spi 1.0. My gnome is now accessible again except for gnome-terminal. When I started looking, I noticed there isn't an atk module in /usr/lib/gtk-3.0/modules I created the sym link again, but it didn't fix my problem. If i file this as a bug, what package? Kenny

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-08-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
i1 and 2 are in conflict. But > it's known I think. Mario mentioned at-spi2 breaks the GUI. > > Regards, > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > Le lundi 01 août 2011 à 11:14 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > Hi. Currently, sid has some gnome 3 packages and the rest are

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-08-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
h wicd I spent time to fix. So it's absolutely not > satisfying for me, but it works. Maybe for you, if you use gnome2, it'd > work in better conditions. I wait and see, I'll try updating, but still > not gnome3 as it's not mandatory. > > Regards, > &g

Re: SV: SV: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-08-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I don't know of any iso images for sid. I've always switched to sid by dist-upgrade from a base install of what ever debian stable release is current. Kenny On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 11:35:39AM +0200, mattias wrote: > Link to iso? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility

Re: SV: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-08-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 10:08:38AM +0200, mattias wrote: > Kenny do you run squeeze? > No, I run Sid with packages from experimental. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-08-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. This is my first impression after attempting to switch to at-spi2. It looks like both at-spi1 and at-spi 2 have been started during login. I hear "welcome to orca" and then nothing. I get no more feedback from my gnome session My first guess is the at-spi1 and at-spi 2 regestries are conflic

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-31 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 03:37:43PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. Not sure how to resolve this. If the debian package updates to the > > latest git, > > it won't matter since the binary pico module won't be included because of >

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Not sure how to resolve this. If the debian package updates to the latest git, it won't matter since the binary pico module won't be included because of license. If the speech-dispatcher maintainer creates a contrib package containing the pico module, that would be best. You can try buildi

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
wrote: > I really have problems with permissions on FTP. Can you try again and > tell me if now it works please? > > Thanks, > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > Le samedi 30 juillet 2011 à 09:23 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > Hi. I get a 403

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I get a 403 forbiden error when I try to view the log. Kenny On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:51:07PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > Actually I did a last test. Here's the speech-dispatcher's log: > http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu (contains espeak-pico.log and > speech-dispatcher.log

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. To me, your problem with pico sounds like a speech-dispatcher issue instead of an orca problem. Sounds like there is a problem with the generic module using pico. Here, I'm running speech-dispatcher with espeak as my output module. Kenny On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:32:50PM +0200, J

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 05:58:40PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. I just updated to gnome-orca from experimental. > > So far, I'm not seeing any of your problems. > > Did you upgrade all of the ATSPI packages as well, or just Orca? >

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I just updated to gnome-orca from experimental. So far, I'm not seeing any of your problems. This mail was written using mutt with nano in a gnome-terminal running the new orca. I'll keep testing and report any issues. Kenny On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 06:43:53AM +0200, Jean-Philippe

Re: Patch to espeakup

2011-07-21 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I have a more general question. Why break the current behavior. It follows the standards and works. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists

Re: iceweasel

2011-07-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 05:17:41PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > I have too. It will probably be better when the Orca package is updated, > though, as there were changes to the Gecko script in Orca shortly before > version 3.0, as I remember. Do you know what improvements? I'm running gnome-orca

Re: iceweasel

2011-07-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. It worked fine here. I've been running it for a few days now. Glad to be using the debian package for firefox 5.0 instead of a binary in my home dir. Maybe you shouldn't try running experimental until you understand Debian packaging better. If you wait a while, it should get uploaded to uns

Re: Constantly Losing Speech Output

2011-06-27 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. You need to provide more info. What hardware? Is this happening with speech-dispatcher or gnome-speech? There are probably more questions to ask, but this will start. Kenny On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 02:51:03PM -0400, RiverWind wrote: > > I am having the very devil of a problem with

Re: Bug#631725: gnome-system-monitor: Unusable with gnome-orca

2011-06-26 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 06:02:46PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Should libgail-3-common perhaps rather be a dependency of the > gnome-accessibility package? > That might be the best solution for now, but that isn't enough to get access to apps using gtk3. You also will need to make sure l

Re: Bug#631725: gnome-system-monitor: Unusable with gnome-orca

2011-06-26 Thread Kenny Hitt
Regards, > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > Le dimanche 26 juin 2011 à 10:55 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > Hi. The same fix for gnome-terminal 3.0 fixes the accessibility for system > > monitor > > 3.0. > > Part of the problem can be fixed by adding lib

Re: Bug#631724: gnome-terminal not accessible anymore

2011-06-26 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi, you can fix this by installing libgail-3-common and creating a link to /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so in /usr/lib/gtk-3.0/modules This problem was discussed last week on this list. I'm writing this using mutt in a gnome 3.0 terminal window. Kenny On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at

Re: Bug#631725: gnome-system-monitor: Unusable with gnome-orca

2011-06-26 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. The same fix for gnome-terminal 3.0 fixes the accessibility for system monitor 3.0. Part of the problem can be fixed by adding libgail-3-common to the dependencys of gnome-terminal and gnome-system-monitor. Since there isn't a gtk 3.0 specific version for atk, creating a sym link to the exi

Re: voxin

2011-06-25 Thread Kenny Hitt
Did you install the libglib2.0-dev package. That is needed to build source code that uses glib 2.0. Kenny On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 06:50:25PM +0200, mattias wrote: > now voxin are installed thanks for the tip about ls > but > how to get it work with speech-dispatcher > i can't compile it

Re: voxin on debian squeeze

2011-06-25 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Since voxin is basically closed source, only the people who sold it to you will be able to fix it. There's nothing Debian developers can or should do about voxin. Kenny On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 04:48:33PM +0200, mattias wrote: > not work > ./voxin-installer.sh > Sorry, the debian v

Re: gnome-terminal 3.0 not accessible

2011-06-20 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Thanks, installing libgail-3-common and creating the sym link for libatk-bridge.so fixed it here also. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://li

Re: gnome-terminal 3.0 not accessible

2011-06-18 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 08:46:56PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > I just checked it here and, indeed, it isn't accessible at all. However, ldd > /usr/bin/gnome-terminal|grep atk shows that it's linked to ATK, so I don't > know why it isn't sending AT-SPI events out. > > I didn't find any errors i

gnome-terminal 3.0 not accessible

2011-06-18 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Just got upgraded to gnome-terminal 3.0. As the subject says, it isn't accessible. Will this problem be fixed when the rest of at-spi2 gets into unstable? If not, any suggestions for an accessible terminal in Gnome 3? For now, I've downgraded to gnome-terminal 2.30, but that isn't a good lo

Re: At-spi2

2011-06-04 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. No, only the libatspi2.0 packages are currently in Sid. I just checked using apt-cache search atspi. This box is up to date as of a few hours ago. The only python bindings for atspi are for atspi 1.0. Kenny On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:15:35PM +0200, mattias wrote: > Yes the pytho

Re: [g-a-devel] Gail next steps (was Re: GTK and ATK)

2011-06-04 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:01:02PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > breaking change to me committing the fix. On the other hand, the fact > that nobody filed a bug maybe tells us something about the amount of > real-life usage that the gnome3 accessibility stack currently gets... > _

Re: Espeakup-squeeze installer

2011-06-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:07:36PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Kenny Hitt, le Fri 03 Jun 2011 04:37:20 -0500, a écrit : > > Hi. You can change the rate using echo > > Just echo the value to /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/rate. > > The default on my system is 5, so

Re: Espeakup-squeeze installer

2011-06-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. You can change the rate using echo Just echo the value to /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/rate. The default on my system is 5, so to decrease the rate try a number from 1 to 4. Kenny On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 06:26:33PM +1000, Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm

Re: Why hasn't edbrowse seen a bug fix or upgrade in more than 4 years now?

2011-05-21 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Is that thing even being developed any more? I remember in it's early days, the developer would post announcements about new releases to the speakup list, but haven't seen any post from him in years. Kenny On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:50:15PM -0400, Frost wrote: > The title sa

Re: Trying to build orca & caribou

2011-05-06 Thread Kenny Hitt
about the renaming of at-spi libs so at-spi 2 libs could be parallel installed. Once again, this is just a guess from a user. Kenny On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 03:32:16AM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 25 April 2011 01:23, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi.  In your original message, you didn&#x

Re: Debian without screen]

2011-05-05 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Did you define the default resolution for your screen in xorg.conf? Looks like the driver is defaulting to a resolution of 0x0. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: Trying to build orca & caribou

2011-04-24 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. In your original message, you didn't say if you had used build-dep to make sure all orca dependencys were installed. You might try running something like sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca My guess is you are missing a dev package for at-spi, but this is just a guess. Kenny ___

Re: Metapackage strategy for GNOME 3

2011-04-05 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 02:40:25PM +0530, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Hi, > > I’m wondering whether gnome-accessibility still makes sense. It probably > does no harm keeping it and making gnome-core recommend it, but pushing > all of its contents to gnome-core and making accessibility a first-cl

Re: Fwd: Jonathan Riddell: usb-creator in suse; accessibility in Qt, it speaks!

2011-03-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Debian should have at-spi2 once gnome 3 gets uploaded to unstable. After that, experimenting with kde access will be much easier. Based on posts to the kde accessibility list, the qt4 to at-spi bridge still needs a lot of work, so I don't expect good access to kde to happen soon. K

Re: Don't install orca from experimental

2011-03-25 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. If you mean gnome-orca 2.91.6-1, the problem is likely specific to your system I've been running it here since it was first announced on this list with no problems. Kenny On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:35:57PM +0100, mattias wrote: > As the title > The orca crash when you try to star

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-04 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Am I the only one who is having crashes with speech-dispatcher 0.7.1? I have to ask because I'm now seeing gdb crashes when speech-dispatcher crashes. Unless others are having problems, I'm beginning to suspect my hardware is failing. The last 3 crashes have resulted in a gdb crash. That is n

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-04 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 09:29:24PM -0500, Trevor Saunders wrote: > well, that's very interesting, it looks like the espeak debug symbols > will be more help here than the speech dispatcher ones. Please install > the libespeak-dbg package for the symbols and get another trace. > That's what I

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:29:41PM +0100, Boris Dušek wrote: > On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > Finally got another crash. Looks like it's the espeak output module that's > > crashing. > > The following is from the ~/speech-dispatcher

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Sorry, forgot to include the back trace I did get in my last message. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 0xb6aefb70 (LWP 14582)] 0xb7732295 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libespeak.so.1 (gdb) bt #0 0xb7732295 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libespeak.so.1 #1 0xb7733a10

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 12:46:53PM +0100, Halim Sahin wrote: > Hi Kenny, > > It would be nice to know which synth you are using with libao. > it works stable here using ibmtts and espeak. I'm using espeak. > Another question would be if the synthdriver crashs or the core server. Not sure. Si

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 12:31:54PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: > You could try running speech-dispatcher manually under gdb. > Once the daemon crashes again, switch to that gdb session and > request a backtrace ("bt"). > Finally got another crash. Looks like it's the espeak output module that's

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 07:58:52PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Halim Sahin, le Wed 02 Mar 2011 14:59:23 +0100, a écrit : > > 2. please build speechd with libao support turned on so we can use a > > working alsa sound setup. > > The native alsa driver of speechd crashs several times a day (t

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Have you filed these as bugs yet? Remember, a bug report is more useful and likely to get results than just posting to a mailing list. I didn't see them when I looked at speech-dispatcher bugs earlier this morning. Kenny On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 02:59:23PM +0100, Halim Sahin wrot

Re: pgp in evolution

2011-03-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. This isn't the answer you want, but you might try thunderbird. I haven't tried evolution in a while, but thunderbird seems to be more accessible than what I remember from my last attempt to use evolution. Kenny On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 06:50:18PM +0100, Odd Martin Baanrud wrote: >

Re: say all, did not work :Re: [orca-list] Announcing Orca v2.91.90

2011-02-22 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I don't see your problem with 2.91.6. Also I don't see anything in the release notes for 2.91.90 that would explain your problem. I use the espeak gnome-speech driver instead of speech-dispatcher. I wonder if you have found yet another problem with speech-dispatcher? Due to it's frequent c

Re: gnome-orca

2011-02-22 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Thanks for this. I just upgraded. So far, it seems to be working. BTW, orca 2.92 was released yesterday. Since this is bleeding edge software, it might be a good idea to update to 2.92 in experimental. Kenny On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 03:16:49PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: > Jean-Phi

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:44:28PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: > Considering DVI, does X11 fail also if a modern monitor is just turned off? > > While I usually have a screen attached to allow cooperation with sighted > users, I can perfectly see how other users would try to use X11 without > a s

Re: question about sources.list

2011-01-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
, 2011 at 04:24:43PM -0600, mike cutie and maia wrote: > I am upgrading to squeeze to I just leave the stable and such the way it is? > > -Original Message- > From: Kenny Hitt [mailto:hittsj...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:40 PM > To: debian-accessibilit

Re: question about sources.list

2011-01-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. You didn't say waht you are running now. It's been a while for me also since I just dist-upgrade to sid on any new install. To upgrade from lenny to squeeze, change lenny to squeeze for all lines in your sources.list. Then, run aptitude update before running aptitude dist-upgrade

Re: question about sound

2010-12-28 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I have several ideas. Please post more info to help narrow the possibilitys Most important, what are the specs of the system? Once we know what hardware, we can start providing answers. Kenny On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 01:18:47PM -0600, mike cutie and maia wrote: > Hi I just installe

Re: iceweasel

2010-12-23 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 06:16:01PM +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: > I just did this. I'm running squeeze and had to install the following: > > xulrunner-1.9.2 from Experimental > libsqlite3 from Sid > > I wasn't able to persuade apt-get to install from Experimental, > despite the packages showing

Re: Bug#595292: ITP: daisy-player -- player for Daisy talking books (DTB)

2010-10-27 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I'd like to provide books, but all the daisy 3 books I have are copy protected. I'm not legally allowed to give them to anyone. Kenny On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 09:50:11PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi Kenny and others, > > On 09/02/10 22:23, Kenny Hitt

Re: a11y: pulseaudio muted in squeeze by default

2010-09-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 05:29:13PM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > hi, > Ok I filed > Bug#598628 for squeeze which describes the muted audio in pulse. > If this can be fixed, speechd should deppend (not recomment) pulseaudio. > If we don't want this then we should change audio output to something

Re: a11y: pulseaudio muted in squeeze by default

2010-09-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:49:34AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > This needs to be discussed with Milan: he explicitly dropped the alsa > fallback to avoid blocking other applications. > > Also see Hynek's remarks: > > “If we are to stay with 0.7, this commit needs to be applied: > 4b7c0

Re: a11y: pulseaudio muted in squeeze by default

2010-09-30 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:44:15AM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > Hello all, > I don't if this makes difference to do a clean install etc. > The problems which kenny has described can be confirmed here. > 1. default audio is pulse, but not everyone uses it. > 2. When I install pulse the audiooutpu

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
not pulseaudio. Otherwise, I just pressed enter and let spd-conf use it's defaults. Kenny > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > >Hi. Looks like just editing a speechd.conf I copied to ~/.speech-dispatcher > >wasn't enough to get it working > >I on

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
hi. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:25:09PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > Why don't you just configure Speech-Dispatcher to use ALSA directly? That what > I did. I have no intention of installing Pulseaudio. > > Did you make any other changes other than changing pulse to alsa? I tried that with the lo

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
n Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 09:21:46PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. No, all I get is silence trying to play a wav file with paplay. > Looks like that might be the issue. > I installed pavucontrol, but it says there are no devices. > > I don't want to use a .asoundrc. I will not for

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. No, all I get is silence trying to play a wav file with paplay. Looks like that might be the issue. I installed pavucontrol, but it says there are no devices. I don't want to use a .asoundrc. I will not for any reason break my alsa output. If pulseaudio can't get along with my other apps ru

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Pulseaudio was installed as a dependency of the latest speech-dispatcher update. I haven't edited any speech-dispatcher file in /etc. The config files are the default files included in the package. That means speech-dispatcher is running in the user session. According to ps aux|grep pulse

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 02:33:44AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Kenny Hitt, le Wed 29 Sep 2010 17:19:06 -0500, a écrit : > > http://hittsjunk.net/debug-2010-09-29-16:59:46.out > > Nothing obvious to me here. You tested that spd-say still works, right? > > Samuel

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. Don't know why emacs would be listed since neither emacs or emacspeak are installed on the system.. Yes, I selected speech-dispatcher in preferences. Gnome-speech and speech-dispatcher were the only choices listed in the combo box. Kenny On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:54:03AM +0200,

Re: midnight commander

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. In theory, speakup should be able to do the same thing. I don't use this app, so haven't tested it with speakup. Kenny On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:21:17AM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > Hi, > Patching upstream apps for accessibility is is fine in many cases. > However the described p

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:00:20AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Kenny Hitt, le Wed 29 Sep 2010 16:57:29 -0500, a écrit : > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:40:10PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Kenny Hitt, le Wed 29 Sep 2010 16:10:36 -0500, a écrit : > > > > It&#

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:40:10PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Kenny Hitt, le Wed 29 Sep 2010 16:10:36 -0500, a écrit : > > It's still not solved for me using speech-dispatcher with Orca. > > Do you get error messages in Orca's logs? > > Samuel > At t

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
hi. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 06:05:17PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Ok. I've kept with 0.7 for now. > > > If we are to stay with 0.7, this commit needs to be applied: > > 4b7c03605c754aa0b3f192c0385a30019ffecdef > > which will prevent the issues related to audio fallback. > > It was in 0.

Re: unable to log into gdm3 after reboot

2010-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 03:03:52PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > You could test your hypothesis by downgrading to the version of gdm3 in > Testing, i.e., sudo aptitude install gdm3/testing > (making sure you have a testing repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list > file). > > If it works after t

Bug#598377: gdm3: unable to log into the session after last upgrade

2010-09-28 Thread Kenny Hitt
Package: gdm3 Version: 2.30.5-2 Severity: important After the last upgrade of gdm, I can no longer log into the gnome session. Gdm is running. Because I require accessibility for access to my system, I don't know what is actually displayed on the gdm3 login screen. I can provide any needed log

unable to log into gdm3 after reboot

2010-09-27 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I logged out of my gnome session this morning for the first time in over a week. When I tried to log in again, I was unable to do so. I rebooted with no luck. It appears something got broken badly in the latest upload of gdm3 to Sid. I believe the problem is in the greeter, but don't know

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-23 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:52:47PM +0200, Hynek Hanke wrote: > The upstream 0.7.1 release fixes the issues from this bug report, > but is not yet available in Debian. To my knowledge, the version > 0.7 works in Debian too, if used with the default settings. It has troubles > with non-default se

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-22 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 01:36:16PM +1000, Jason White wrote: > > In addition, Emacspeak (which is not a screen reader but a full speech > interface to Emacspeak and its extensions) has always included its own speech > servers. Orca used to be compatible with these, but the necessary support >

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-21 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:37:14AM +1000, Jason White wrote: > I've looked at the bug report. I think the underlying problem is that upstream > Speech-Dispatcher is moving toward a model in which the daemon is run by the > user rather than system-wide. > > What I don't understand is how this m

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-20 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I was afraid of this. The speech-dispatcher 0.7 package doesn't work correctly. In my opinion, it sould never have been allowed to move to Squeeze. I have reported the issue to the speech-dispatcher maintainer, but it hasn't been resolved. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=5

Re: installing or reinstalling software on Nokia n82 and ubuntu

2010-09-13 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. You can't use Nokia's pc suite app since that's a Windows app. You do have several ways to install talks without needing Windows. I set the usb connection mode of the phone to mass storage so my desktop can see the sd card. I copy the talks file to the memory card and use sighted help to sel

Re: [Talks] OT Apologies but help requested!

2010-09-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. There is a google group for discussion of Android accessibility. Visit http://groups.google.com/group/eyes-free Kenny On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 07:22:00PM +0100, Steve Hyde-Dryden wrote: > Hi All, > > Apologies to the mods for this. > > I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a

Re: [Talks] Installing applications

2010-09-03 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. It is possible to install loadstone without sighted help. In my case, I installed it from the loadstone web site. I visited the web site on my phone. After selecting a phone model, I selected the download button and the installed started. Kenny On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 08:26:09AM

Bug#595292: ITP: daisy-player -- player for Daisy talking books (DTB)

2010-09-02 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. One important piece of info missing from the description is the version of the daisy standard supported by this app. In the United States, most daisy books use version 3. All the players I've found for Linux only support daisy 2.0. Is this also the case for this app? Kenny On

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