Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Pavitra
On 07/17/2012 06:31 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Machiavelli wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, moonroof wrote: > Cipher? announcement, publish a Cypher for the classified parameter in >>

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Machiavelli wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, moonroof wrote: Cipher? announcement, publish a Cypher for the classified parameter in I'd like to say that the 'y' was a clever agoran pun and not i

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: The Rules may specify a date or event after which a particular type of Cypher becomes Declassified; with a default of as soon as possible after the Cypher is first published. As soon as possible after a particular Cypher becomes declassified, its record

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >The Rules may specify a date or event after which a particular >type of Cypher becomes Declassified; with a default of as soon as >possible after the Cypher is first published. As soon as possible >after a parti

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >up until the time the recordkeepor announces >its Declassification. I would just do "up until the time it becomes Declassified". > >The Rules may specify a date or event after which a particular >type of Cypher

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Tanner Swett
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, moonroof wrote: >> > Cipher? >>announcement, publish a Cypher for the classified parameter in > > I'd like to say that the 'y' was a clever agoran pun and not idiocy > coup

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, moonroof wrote: > > Cipher? >announcement, publish a Cypher for the classified parameter in I'd like to say that the 'y' was a clever agoran pun and not idiocy coupled with an overly-permissive spellchecker, but you know,

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Kerim Aydin wrote: >then, for the purpose of determining the result of the attempted >classified action, the cypher is interpreted as if its plaintext had >been published in place of the cypher at the time the original action >attempt was publ

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, moonroof wrote: > Cipher? Good one. Ok, here's a re-write: If the Rules define a specific, essential parameter for an action as a Classified Parameter for the action, then a person MAY, when otherwise attempting to perform the action by announce

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread moonroof
Cipher? On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > The rule specifying the secret should additionally specify the > > encryption (I hate this word in this context, fwiw) > > I'm trying to give it a "spy/secrets" flavor rather than a techni

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > The rule specifying the secret should additionally specify the > encryption (I hate this word in this context, fwiw) I'm trying to give it a "spy/secrets" flavor rather than a technical flavor (e.g. "hash"), though I know I'm using the term incorrectly. Go

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > > > Restrict it to casting votes? > > > It should be legal for non-rules defined actions as well. I could see > this mechanism being useful for contracts/contests/promises/whatever > form of binding

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Restrict it to casting votes? > It should be legal for non-rules defined actions as well. I could see this mechanism being useful for contracts/contests/promises/whatever form of binding agreements exist presently. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread Ed Murphy
omd wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: then the encoding is interpreted as if its plaintext had been published at the time the original encoding was published. i think this is too vague - what if the plaintext is "I deregister"? Restrict it to casting

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, omd wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Kerim Aydin >>> wrote: >>> > then the encoding is interpreted as if its plaintext had been >>> > pub

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread omd
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > The rule specifying the secret should additionally specify the > encryption (I hate this word in this context, fwiw) method and the > rule allowing secrets should define explicitly what sort of actions or > information can be contained within. Fo

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread Sean Hunt
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, omd wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > then the encoding is interpreted as if its plaintext had been >> > published at the time the original encoding was published. >> >> i

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, omd wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > then the encoding is interpreted as if its plaintext had been > > published at the time the original encoding was published. > > i think this is too vague - what if the plaintext is "I deregis

Re: DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread omd
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > then the encoding is interpreted as if its plaintext had been > published at the time the original encoding was published. i think this is too vague - what if the plaintext is "I deregister"?

DIS: very hash hash

2012-07-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
It might be worth coming up with a general mechanism for Secret but Confirmable information. Following drafty draft needs help: The Rules can define a type of information as Classified. To do so, the Rules must specify a date or event after which that type of information beco