Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-24 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 5:45 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 3/23/23 00:12, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On another note, I don't find anything in the rules that allows us to add > > > conditions to the performance of actions, unless I'm missing somethi

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-24 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 5:45 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > That's pretty fascinating. > > Are there any other notable "unwritten rules"? Precedents or other thing > that are, in practice, as strong as actual explicit ruletext? There should be nothing "as strong as actual rul

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-24 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-03-22 23:57]: > On 3/22/23 14:09, juan via agora-business wrote: > > I transfer one juan stamp to Yachay in order to cash this promise. > > *sigh* > > Does this actually result in the promise being cashed? Or is the "in > order to cash this promise" sufficien

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-23 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Yeah, look at how nebulously entities are defined. There's like wicked debates on that sometimes. tor. 23. mar. 2023, 5:46 p.m. skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > That's pretty fascinating. > > Are there any other notable "unwritten rules"? Precedent

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-23 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
That's pretty fascinating. Are there any other notable "unwritten rules"? Precedents or other thing that are, in practice, as strong as actual explicit ruletext? On Wednesday, March 22, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/23/23 00:12, Yachay Way

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/23/23 00:12, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > On another note, I don't find anything in the rules that allows us to add > conditions to the performance of actions, unless I'm missing something. Certain conditions on by announcement actions are permissible under longstanding pre

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-22 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
(As applied to action such as this one, cashing in a Promise. There are other actions that are explicit in that you can add conditions in some way to them, but it's not a general ability that all actions have, seemingly) On Wednesday, March 22, 2023, Yachay Wayllukuq wrote: > On another note, I

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-22 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
On another note, I don't find anything in the rules that allows us to add conditions to the performance of actions, unless I'm missing something. On Wednesday, March 22, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/22/23 14:09, juan via agora-business wro

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/22/23 14:09, juan via agora-business wrote: > I transfer one juan stamp to Yachay in order to cash this promise. *sigh* Does this actually result in the promise being cashed? Or is the "in order to cash this promise" sufficiently ambiguous with non-action explanatory text? -- Janet Cobb

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2023-03-21 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
tir. 21. mar. 2023, 5:32 p.m. skrev nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > On 3/21/23 16:04, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > Lets try this again. It doesn't feel elegant but I think it works. > > > > I create then give this Promise to Juan: > > > > { > > Cash

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-21 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/21/23 16:04, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: Lets try this again. It doesn't feel elegant but I think it works. I create then give this Promise to Juan: { Cashing Condition: The person using this Promise is Juan. Also, Juan has within the last 24 hours of cashing this Promise su

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-21 Thread juan via agora-discussion
juan via agora-discussion [2023-03-21 13:12]: > I fell I've been mentioned here. I'll justify my actions: feel* -- juan

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-21 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Aspen via agora-discussion [2023-03-20 10:44]: > Y'all, we shouldn't really be asking brand new players to draft promises > anyway. They're not as bad as proposals, but still. I fell I've been mentioned here. I'll justify my actions: 1. New players need to learn. In pointing out the need to draft

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/20/23 13:47, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > I was rude but, this is the second time that this happens to me with you > Janet. It's hard for me to take your feedback seriously when you don't > justify your claims. It feels dogmatic. > > Please explain or give at least some clue

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/20/23 13:50, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: Thanks, I appreciate it a lot. The search space for Agora is immense and I just don't know if it was a Rule, CFJ, opinion, unwritten convention, or what else. One thing I like to note for new players: despite the strong opinions of

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Thanks, I appreciate it a lot. The search space for Agora is immense and I just don't know if it was a Rule, CFJ, opinion, unwritten convention, or what else. On Monday, March 20, 2023, Aspen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Rule 478/41, "Allowing actions performed

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Aspen via agora-discussion
Rule 478/41, "Allowing actions performed by sending a message to take place simultaneously must be done explicitly and is secured at power 2." No rule explicitly enables you to take these actions simultaneously, and the rule would need to be at least power 2. Both actions are performed by announcem

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I was rude but, this is the second time that this happens to me with you Janet. It's hard for me to take your feedback seriously when you don't justify your claims. It feels dogmatic. Please explain or give at least some clue to back yourself up. I'd love to understand where you're coming from. O

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2023-03-20 Thread Aspen via agora-discussion
Incidentally, I'd also give that promise to the library rather than Juan. That allows you to take it back if e doesn't use it in a reasonable time. No one other than you or em would be able to interfere with it, since only e is allowed to cash it. -Aspen On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:44 AM Aspen wr

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Aspen via agora-discussion
Y'all, we shouldn't really be asking brand new players to draft promises anyway. They're not as bad as proposals, but still. Yachay, here's an example I think would work, and is potentially a bit clearer. It also includes some safeguards that probably aren't helpful in this situation, but are good

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Yes it is On Monday, March 20, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/20/23 13:14, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > I create the following Promise called "Stamp Trade": > > > > { > > Cashing Condition: The person using this Promise is Juan

Re: DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-20 Thread Juan F. Meleiro via agora-discussion
I'll offer one of mine. Draft a promise and I'll take it. On March 19, 2023 7:18:09 PM GMT-03:00, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: >Hello, I would like to trade Stamps. The super-exclusive Yupay Stamp is a >gorgeous, deluxe ware; which I believe a number of you may find attractive >t

DIS: Trade offer ad - Stamps for Stamps

2023-03-19 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Hello, I would like to trade Stamps. The super-exclusive Yupay Stamp is a gorgeous, deluxe ware; which I believe a number of you may find attractive to own. I offer the following: - I offer 1 Yupay Stamp for 1 Stamp that only up to 2 active Players currently own. - I offer 1 Yupay Stamp for 3 Stam

DIS: Trade Offer

2022-03-16 Thread nix via agora-discussion
I'm selling 2 winsomes and a wincard and buying pendants/lcs at reasonable prices. Contact me here or discord to negotiate. -- nix Herald