Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: >> In my work on the rules history, I discovered that around 1999, it was >> possible to adopt proposals outside the normal distribution process, and >> this led to two proposals being ad

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 15:41 Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 19:38 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Currently the FLR uses the proposal title (can't look it up; on mobile); > > other proposals from the dawn of time and recent days use both ID and > > title. For that one I recorded it as bot

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 19:38 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Currently the FLR uses the proposal title (can't look it up; on mobile); > other proposals from the dawn of time and recent days use both ID and > title. For that one I recorded it as both the ID and title, which gives > something to work with

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
Currently the FLR uses the proposal title (can't look it up; on mobile); other proposals from the dawn of time and recent days use both ID and title. For that one I recorded it as both the ID and title, which gives something to work with, but it will format weird unless I decide to special-case it.

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
If the rule said that proposals were required to be assigned "names" and not "ID numbers", is there a unique-enough and short name that can identify those? The main thing for me is, if I see the (for lack of a better term) "identification string" in the FLR and a date, I want to be able (in pr

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
That's fair. This doesn't really resolve how to deal with proposals that are missing them altogether though On Wed, Nov 1, 2017, 15:20 Kerim Aydin, wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > 1607 > > Ah that was somehow missing from one of PSS's recent rulesets, I see > e fixed that

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > 1607 Ah that was somehow missing from one of PSS's recent rulesets, I see e fixed that right afterwards. Under that, ID Numbers were first defined in Rule 2161 (2 August 2007) so there's no guarantee that any proposal before that officially has one. I

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The only place I see ID numbers for Proposals at all, in the current ruleset, > is in R107, it's used as an example of a way to refer to the matter to be > decided in a Decision. Today's Ruleset only mentions/defines ID numbers for > Rules and Regulat

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
1607 On Wed, Nov 1, 2017, 14:56 Kerim Aydin, wrote: > > > The only place I see ID numbers for Proposals at all, in the current > ruleset, > is in R107, it's used as an example of a way to refer to the matter to be > decided in a Decision. Today's Ruleset only mentions/defines ID numbers > for

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
The only place I see ID numbers for Proposals at all, in the current ruleset, is in R107, it's used as an example of a way to refer to the matter to be decided in a Decision. Today's Ruleset only mentions/defines ID numbers for Rules and Regulations, not at all for Proposals or CFJs (unless I

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
Hmm, but then doesn't that mean that Aris has to assign ID numbers to all the old proposals that didn't have them, assuming they were distributed? On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 14:39 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 14:19 Kerim Aydin wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 14:19 Kerim Aydin wrote: > There's quite a few entries that "correctly" depart from the proposal > pattern from the elder days (e.g. apparently "rule 750" was responsible > for a lot of modifications, and back then

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 14:19 Kerim Aydin wrote: > There's quite a few entries that "correctly" depart from the proposal > pattern from the elder days (e.g. apparently "rule 750" was responsible > for a lot of modifications, and back then also rule numbers changed > with amendments). > > It seems t

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 17:51 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Finding free numbers sounds awful. I dislike fractional numbers too, > > since > > it kind of defeats the purpose of cleaning these numbers in the first > > place, I think. > > I consider a number t

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 17:51 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Finding free numbers sounds awful. I dislike fractional numbers too, > since > it kind of defeats the purpose of cleaning these numbers in the first > place, I think. I consider a number that's out of sequence (i.e. the magnitude gives a very

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-11-01 Thread Alexis Hunt
Finding free numbers sounds awful. I dislike fractional numbers too, since it kind of defeats the purpose of cleaning these numbers in the first place, I think. On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 02:49 Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2017-10-31 at 23:43 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-10-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2017-10-31 at 23:43 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > In my work on the rules history, I discovered that around 1999, it was > > possible to adopt proposals outside the normal distribution process, and > > this led to two proposals being

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > In my work on the rules history, I discovered that around 1999, it was > possible to adopt proposals outside the normal distribution process, and > this led to two proposals being adopted without classic ID numbers: one with > ID number "01-00

DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-10-31 Thread Alexis Hunt
In my work on the rules history, I discovered that around 1999, it was possible to adopt proposals outside the normal distribution process, and this led to two proposals being adopted without classic ID numbers: one with ID number "01-003" and another without an ID number at all. Probably more were