Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-23 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >Proto-proto: Change the higher-than-previous from CAN to SHALL, but >change precedence from lowest ID number to earliest date of creation, >and require a sufficiently informative annotation for rules that broke >the higher-than-previous requirement. Sounds cumbersome. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-22 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On 10/21/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In general, subsequent changes would be successful, as it would be unambiguous which rule was intended to be amended (especially if the subsequent proposals referred to them by both number and name). If that's true, then the system

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On 10/21/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In general, subsequent changes would be successful, as it would be > unambiguous which rule was intended to be amended (especially if the > subsequent proposals referred to them by both number and name). If that's true, then the system is useless

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-22 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >Proto: Repeal rule 2161. I think the regulation is useful. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-22 Thread comex
On 10/21/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proto: More pragmatic ID numbers > > Amend Rule 2161 (ID Numbers) by appending this text to section (b): > > If an ID number is purportedly assigned to an entity that > is later discovered not to have existed at the time, and

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: All the proposals in question were adopted before ID numbers (proposal 5110), so I believe there would be no invalid rule number assignments. If 5110 had already taken effect, it could have been quite problematic; if any rules had been created with invalid ID numbers, then any subse

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On 10/21/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The VC is pretty insignificant. (It's one of mine, isn't it, and I have > it iff CFJ 1711 is true? If that's the case and it's ultimately ruled > that I do have it, I'll donate it to pikhq.) More troublesome is that > proposals will have been adop

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: > This has been a few weeks of argument >over what amounts to a single VC. Let's just get a ruling on the >books and *leave it*, shall we? The VC is pretty insignificant. (It's one of mine, isn't it, and I have it iff CFJ 1711 is true? If th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread comex
On 10/21/07, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007 14:44:22 comex wrote: > > Then support the OVERRULE and cause the panel to judge so... > > > > I'm not on the panel, I'm merely opining. > Oops, I mixed it up with the other appeal.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 21 October 2007 14:44:22 comex wrote: > Then support the OVERRULE and cause the panel to judge so... > I'm not on the panel, I'm merely opining.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread comex
On Sunday 21 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007 14:38:27 comex wrote: > > > I support OVERRULE, replacing with Eris's original judgement of > > > FALSE. > > > > > > -root > > > > I support this. > > I still think that AFFIRM is the correct option, but honestly, it > d

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 21 October 2007 14:38:27 comex wrote: > > I support OVERRULE, replacing with Eris's original judgement of > > FALSE. > > > > -root > > > I support this. > I still think that AFFIRM is the correct option, but honestly, it doesn't matter that much. . . This has been a few weeks of ar

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread comex
On Sunday 21 October 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > On 10/21/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 21 October 2007, Zefram wrote: > > > Appellant comex's Arguments: > > > > > > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this as neither CFJs 1451-2 nor > > > the various arguments in the first appeal

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On 10/21/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007, Zefram wrote: > > Appellant comex's Arguments: > > > > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this as neither CFJs 1451-2 nor > > the various arguments in the first appeal were considered by Judge > > pikhq. > > I suggest eithe

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711b: assign comex, Goddess Eris, root

2007-10-21 Thread comex
On Sunday 21 October 2007, Zefram wrote: > Appellant comex's Arguments: > > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this as neither CFJs 1451-2 nor > the various arguments in the first appeal were considered by Judge > pikhq. I suggest either AFFIRM or OVERRULE. This case ought to be settled; it's i