Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Arkady English wrote: Add a rule titled "Rule Ownership" with the text: "All rules, unless explicitly stated, are owned by The President." I explicitly state that all rules are owned by me. Better yet, I create a rule stating "All rules are owned by Murphy". > "- Rules in conflict which are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-13 Thread Tanner Swett
> Add a rule titled "Rule Ownership" with the text: > "All rules, unless explicitly stated, are owned by The President." Perhaps something like "Rules are fixed assets whose recordkeepor is . Every rule is, by default, owned by the President." > Alter the text of rule 1030 to add this paragra

DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-13 Thread Arkady English
On 12 December 2011 07:46, Alex Smith wrote: > I intend, without objection, to transfer rule 2166 from the Lost and > Found department to myself. > > (This works because rules fulfil the definition of assets; they exist > only because they're rules-defined (their backing document is rule 2141, >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: It was pointed out at the time that just setting a person's power to a number wasn't enough, one had to amend the ruleset to contain a use mechanism (e.g. add "G. CAN do x by announcement"). I used the Rule instead of my set power for the whole scam so that wasn't tested IIRC. Makes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, omd wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> Such as The President.  Also, there was a scam a while back to > >> assign positive power to a first-class player (I think G.); did > >> that go through, and if so, did we reverse it? > > > > Yes, I had th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread omd
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Such as The President.  Also, there was a scam a while back to >> assign positive power to a first-class player (I think G.); did >> that go through, and if so, did we reverse it? > > Yes, I had the arbitrary-changes-to-the-ruleset rule set my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:28 -0600, Pavitra wrote: > > > It might make the owner of a rule able to destroy that rule by > > > announcement. > > > > Only if that rule's owner had positive power. > > Such as The President. Also, there was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:28 -0600, Pavitra wrote: It might make the owner of a rule able to destroy that rule by announcement. Only if that rule's owner had positive power. Such as The President. Also, there was a scam a while back to assign positive power to a first-class pl

DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: I intend, without objection, to transfer rule 2166 from the Lost and Found department to myself. (This works because rules fulfil the definition of assets; they exist only because they're rules-defined (their backing document is rule 2141, incidentally). They can't be destroyed by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:53 -0600, Pavitra wrote: > On 12/12/2011 02:47 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > R105 takes precedence. > > I don't see that it conflicts. "Where permitted by other rules" -- 2166 > is a rule, so it can give permission -- ", an instrument generally can > [...] repeal a rule." -- 21

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Pavitra
On 12/12/2011 02:47 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 03:39, Pavitra wrote: >> On 12/12/2011 02:33 AM, ais523 wrote: >>> On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:28 -0600, Pavitra wrote: It might make the owner of a rule able to destroy that rule by announcement. >>> >>> Only if that rule'

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 03:39, Pavitra wrote: > On 12/12/2011 02:33 AM, ais523 wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:28 -0600, Pavitra wrote: >>> It might make the owner of a rule able to destroy that rule by announcement. >> >> Only if that rule's owner had positive power. > > Nope. R2166 has positi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Pavitra
On 12/12/2011 02:33 AM, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:28 -0600, Pavitra wrote: >> It might make the owner of a rule able to destroy that rule by announcement. > > Only if that rule's owner had positive power. Nope. R2166 has positive power. (paragraph 6)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 02:28 -0600, Pavitra wrote: > It might make the owner of a rule able to destroy that rule by announcement. Only if that rule's owner had positive power. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-12 Thread Pavitra
On 12/12/2011 01:52 AM, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 07:46 +, Alex Smith wrote: >> I intend, without objection, to transfer rule 2166 from the Lost and >> Found department to myself. >> >> (This works because rules fulfil the definition of assets; they exist >> only because they're rul

DIS: Re: BUS: This doesn't do anything useful, but it's sure nifty that it's possible

2011-12-11 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 07:46 +, Alex Smith wrote: > I intend, without objection, to transfer rule 2166 from the Lost and > Found department to myself. > > (This works because rules fulfil the definition of assets; they exist > only because they're rules-defined (their backing document is rule 2