DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2012-06-05 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, FKA441344 <441...@gmail.com> wrote: > CoE:The last change to the ruleset was by proposal 7250, at 17:44 UTC Mon 04 > Jun Context: the judgement that proposals take effect before they're resolved. As far as I can tell, those out of 7218-7246 that passed would have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2011-07-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, omd wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Not a god, no.  An Instrument of the gods. > > > >> but, as above, I think the implication is "actions that the President CAN > >> take". > > > > ...as an Instrument. > > Well, you said that "CAN take actio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2011-07-06 Thread omd
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Not a god, no.  An Instrument of the gods. > >> but, as above, I think the implication is "actions that the President CAN >> take". > > ...as an Instrument. Well, you said that "CAN take actions" counts as R105 permission to take the action of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2011-07-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, omd wrote: > the President was supposed to be a virtual player, not a god. Not a god, no. An Instrument of the gods. > but, as above, I think the implication is "actions that the President CAN > take". ...as an Instrument.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2011-07-06 Thread omd
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > R106 says that Proposals can and do > make changes in general and provide a mechanism (just as the president can > take actions in general by way of a different mechanism) Gratuitous: CFJ 2213 is highly relevant. I misremembered the preceden

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2011-07-05 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, omd wrote: >> THE FULL LOGICAL RULESET > > CoE:  Rule 2344 should include "Murphy CAN cause this rule to make > arbitrary rule changes by announcement." I agree with ais523 in eir gratuitous arguments to CFJ 3034, so denied

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2008-05-25 Thread comex
On 5/25/08, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > comex wrote: > >CFJ: R101 item i. reads: > Denied. It's a CFJ, not a claim of error-- in fact it was judged TRUE. You are, of course, free to appeal it. > Per CFJ 1955, there is no general mechanism giving effect to > announcements of permitted a

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2008-05-22 Thread Alexander Smith
comex wrote: > Of course, that creates a good interest-of-the-game reason to judge > that R101 i. is just broken for some reason or other, because who > knows what spurious actions have been announced in the last two > months. Well, if anyone can do what e wilt, ehird's Announcement of Chaos actual

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2008-05-22 Thread comex
On 5/22/08, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact that the Rules that would prevent it are "an explicit, binding > agreement to the contrary". Unless someone once again broke the part > that says that the Rules are treated as a binding agreement between > all players... is that gone

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2008-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 22 May 2008, comex wrote: > No, what I willed is that Agora's R101 be amended in the manner I > specified. I had the privilege to amend it and I did. What part of > the preamble contradicts this? The fact that the Rules that would prevent it are "an explicit, binding agreement to the co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2008-05-22 Thread comex
On 5/22/08, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A. That's why (i) is a privilege and not a right. Read the R101 preamble. The rules may define persons as possessing specific rights or privileges. Be it hereby proclaimed that no binding agreement or interpretation of Agor

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2008-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 22 May 2008, comex wrote: > On 5/22/08, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i. Every person has the privilege of doing what e wilt. > CFJ: R101 item i. reads: >i. The map being obviously the most important rule, every > person has the right to move it back up to