Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:28 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But there's no reason R1728 shouldn't support > with-support-without-objection generally. (Goethe, was it intended > to?) > > Proposal: Allow multiple methods (AI=2) > Amend Rule 1728 by replacing "method" in item b) with "methods

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, comex wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I publish official report X, which if ratified would make me dictator. >> I intend to (ratify X without objection), with support. >> I cause Player B, on whose behalf I can act, to support

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: >> I agree that it's perfectly clear what's intended. But R1728 isn't >> looking for extension, it's looking for one of those three method >> schemata, period, and if the method doesn

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 11:30 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > > I agree that it's perfectly clear what's intended. But R1728 isn't > > looking for extension, it's looking for one of those three method > > schemata, period, and if the method doesn't match, then R17

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > I agree that it's perfectly clear what's intended. But R1728 isn't > looking for extension, it's looking for one of those three method > schemata, period, and if the method doesn't match, then R1728 doesn't > apply to it. Since R1728 is the only rule that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: >> This compound method isn't one of the methods listed in R1728(a). The >> paragraph does say "at least one of the following methods", but I >> think that just means that the rules c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > This compound method isn't one of the methods listed in R1728(a). The > paragraph does say "at least one of the following methods", but I > think that just means that the rules can define multiple methods for > performing the same dependent action, not that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This compound method isn't one of the methods listed in R1728(a). The > paragraph does say "at least one of the following methods", but I > think that just means that the rules can define multiple methods for > performing the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> 5798 D 1 3.0 Goethe Toughen Ratifiation >> AGAINST. "Without objection and with support" is not a defined method >> of dependent actions. > > 'Without objection' is d

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:47 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 5799 D 1 2.0 comex Fix Rule 1789 >> AGAINST. Didn't we already adopt this? > > Its voting period was extended due to lack of quorum. I vote F

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: >> 5798 D 1 3.0 Goethe Toughen Ratifiation > AGAINST. "Without objection and with support" is not a defined method > of dependent actions. 'Without objection' is defined. 'with support' is defined. 'and' is defined. So why doesn't this work? (n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-22 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 23:35, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> BobTHJ wrote: >>> I vote LLAMA(SELL(2VP - PRESENT)) on the above proposals. >> Both LLAMA() and SELL() implicitly define a conditional vote. On the >> democratic proposals, one of these is invalid, but it's un

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-22 Thread Taral
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure what is so difficult hereit seems pretty easy to > resolve this to me. A Sell Ticket to cast a LLAMA conditional vote? I wouldn't buy that. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any f

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-21 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 13:26, The PerlNomic Partnership > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE >> 5794 O 1 1.0 Murphy Return of the Repeal-o-Matic >> 5795 O 1 1.0 Murphy Stop letting the Mad Scientist double-dip >> 5796 O 1

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-21 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:51, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 13:26, The PerlNomic Partnership >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE >>> 5794 O 1 1.0 Murphy

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-21 Thread warrigal
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 13:26, The PerlNomic Partnership > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE >> 5794 O 1 1.0 Murphy Return of the Repeal-o-Matic >> 5795 O 1 1.0 Murphy

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-20 Thread Taral
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 5797 D 1 2.0 Taral Office with care > FOR, even though I think it's a no-op Not a no-op. Second-class players now must consent regardless of when they were nominated. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-18 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19/10/2008, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't know how to vote? Don't waste your voice with PRESENT; vote LLAMA! > No. > I vote as follows: > >> 5794 O 1 1.0 Murphy Return of the Repeal-o-Matic > LLAMA (FOR) > >> 5795 O 1 1.0 Murphy Stop letting the Mad Scient