On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> On behalf of twg, I vote Endorse G. on the below decisions.
>
> I vote as follows:
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> On 6/6/2020 10:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> > 8409* Aris 3.0
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:07 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:34 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-business wrote:
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> > FOR; Aris, I think there is an error here because the Adoption index
> > is listed diff
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:34 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-business wrote:
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> FOR; Aris, I think there is an error here because the Adoption index
> is listed differently below than here.
I'm inclined to think this totally broke the distribution, but someone
can let me know if they
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:12 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> On 6/7/2020 8:55 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Just conceptually switches could be replaced with variables. Most of our
> > player-base probably has a passing understanding of co
Aris, I for one really appreciate what you've done for Agora. I admire
the time and effort you have put into the game over the years. I, too,
thought you were much older than you are just due to your maturity. I've
thought of you as a staple of the community since I joined. Serious
congrats on
On 2020-06-07 13:02, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
(1) use natural switches - current solution, bad metaphor;
(2) use currencies - I think that's a bad fit, we don't really want to
treat these quantities as tradable objects and we want to include negative
karma, so with an even "worse"
> (1) use natural switches - current solution, bad metaphor;
>
> (2) use currencies - I think that's a bad fit, we don't really want to
> treat these quantities as tradable objects and we want to include negative
> karma, so with an even "worse" metaphor IMO;
>
> (3) invent something new in paralle
On 6/7/2020 9:00 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 6/7/2020 8:45 AM, Rebecca via
agora-discussion wrote:>>> How about we just write it out? "Karma is an
integer value assigned to>> persons and Agora and tracked by the Herald in
eir weekly report, which>> self-ratifies. Karma defaults to zero."
Just one
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 11:05:54 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 6/7/2020 8:55 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Just conceptually switches could be replaced with variables. Most of our
> > player-base probably has a passing understanding of computer variables,
> > and
>
On 6/7/2020 8:55 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> Just conceptually switches could be replaced with variables. Most of our
> player-base probably has a passing understanding of computer variables, and
> they fairly intuitively branch out into booleans, lists, integers and others.
>
Ok, j
On 6/7/2020 8:45 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
>> How about we just write it out? "Karma is an integer value assigned to
> persons and Agora and tracked by the Herald in eir weekly report, which
> self-ratifies. Karma defaults to zero."
> Compare to current rules text "Karma is a person
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:45:03 AM CDT Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 1:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
>
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > On 6/7/2020 8:25 AM, nch wrote:
> > > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:03:32 AM CDT Rebecca wrote:
> > >> On Sun,
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:39:38 AM CDT you wrote:
> On 6/7/2020 8:25 AM, nch wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:03:32 AM CDT Rebecca wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
> I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted f
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On 6/7/2020 8:25 AM, nch wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:03:32 AM CDT Rebecca wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
> I personally greatly pref
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 1:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> On 6/7/2020 8:25 AM, nch wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:03:32 AM CDT Rebecca wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
On 6/7/2020 8:25 AM, nch wrote:
> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:03:32 AM CDT Rebecca wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted for it) because it's
intuitiuve. The rules need less in
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:37 AM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:24:20 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On 6/7/2020 8:05 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > On 6/7/20 10:29 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> > >> One partial
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:24:20 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 6/7/2020 8:05 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On 6/7/20 10:29 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> One partial fix that can be implemented right now, without any ruleset
> >> changes, wou
On 6/7/2020 8:05 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/7/20 10:29 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
>> One partial fix that can be implemented right now, without any ruleset
>> changes, would be a change in the standard method for AGAINST votes aimed at
>> denying side effe
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:03:32 AM CDT Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
>
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 1:22 AM nch via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:43:33 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:43:33 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> > I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted for it) because it's
> > intuitiuve. The rules need less incomprehensible, unintuitive terms of art
> > (li
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 2:08:44 AM CDT Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 2020-06-07 00:20, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
> >
> > wrote:
> >>> 8418* Aris 3.0 Referenda
> >>
> >> A
On 6/7/2020 7:29 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> In terms of ruleset changes to fix the problem, moving towards more
> subjective proposal rewards would help, rather than having them as something
> automatic; perhaps Agora should have a purse for proposal rewards, and some
> fair
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:53 PM Tyler M via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> > I vote as follows:
> >
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> > ID Author(s)AITitle
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> ---
> > 8409* Aris
On 6/7/20 10:29 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> One partial fix that can be implemented right now, without any ruleset
> changes, would be a change in the standard method for AGAINST votes aimed at
> denying side effects (without disagreeing with the proposal): make them
> condition
On 6/7/2020 7:03 AM, Rebecca wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
>>> I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted for it) because it's
>>> intuitiuve. The rules need less incomprehensible, unintuitive terms of
>> art
>>> (like Sw
On Sunday, 7 June 2020, 09:07:13 GMT+1, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I don't expect everyone to vote for my proposals just because my personal
> life is a mess right now. However, I would appreciate not being accused of
> coming up with cosmetic proposals just to get rich. I reali
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> > I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted for it) because it's
> > intuitiuve. The rules need less incomprehensible, u
>
> I vote as follows:
>
> ID Author(s)AITitle
>
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> 8409* Aris 3.0 College of Letters, Arts, and
Sciences
FOR
> 8410e Aris 2.2 Promise Powers Patch
PRES
On 6/7/2020 1:00 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> I personally greatly prefer Referendum (and voted for it) because it's
> intuitiuve. The rules need less incomprehensible, unintuitive terms of art
> (like Switch!) and more like Referendum imho.
Huh, interesting. The switch language al
On 6/7/20 9:04 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> Seriously, thanks for the things you do here. The bombardment of
> proposals has been a bit overwhelming this week but I didn't think
> anything bad of it at any point. Just a lot of enthusiasm to get ideas
> out before it becomes more
On 6/7/2020 1:06 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> As a final point, if people think that some of my proposals were split up
> and should have been merged, I'm prepared to consider pledging to give away
> some of the money. I wrote proposals that I considered logically cohesive
> an
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:15 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:06 AM Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:12 PM Aris Merchant <
> > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:06 AM Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:12 PM Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:12 PM Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > I also encourage everyone to vote against as many of Aris's proposals as
> > possible (i.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:16 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:09 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-06-07 00:20, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Re
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:09 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On 2020-06-07 00:20, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> 8418* Aris 3.0 Referenda
> >> AGAINST; inve
On 2020-06-07 00:20, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
wrote:
8418* Aris 3.0 Referenda
AGAINST; inventing Unnecessary Terms of Art for Things that don't
Require them decreases the Readability of th
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> I also encourage everyone to vote against as many of Aris's proposals as
> possible (i.e, the non-essential ones) because Aris has submitted 10
> proposals or something, most of which are mino
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
wrote:
> > 8418* Aris 3.0 Referenda
> AGAINST; inventing Unnecessary Terms of Art for Things that don't
> Require them decreases the Readability of the Ruleset.
I question whether writing out the extremely lo
I also encourage everyone to vote against as many of Aris's proposals as
possible (i.e, the non-essential ones) because Aris has submitted 10
proposals or something, most of which are minor cosmetic changes, in a
blatant attempt to get heaps of money.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:23 PM Rebecca via ago
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:23 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> "slap on the wrist" does the same thing as "Why Limit Clemency" but better
> - and removing clemency on crimes with 3 blots above would remove the
> distinction between okay and bad crimes, a distinction which everybody was
>
"slap on the wrist" does the same thing as "Why Limit Clemency" but better
- and removing clemency on crimes with 3 blots above would remove the
distinction between okay and bad crimes, a distinction which everybody was
just talking about reinforcing.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:20 PM Aris Merchant v
I vote as follows:
> 8409* Aris 3.0 College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences
FOR. This is one of the proposals I'm most proud of, and hopefully,
it'll stay that way (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, but I
think it will this time)
> 8410e Aris 2.2
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