Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-21 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:36 -0400, comex wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Much of what you've written can be treated as the rights of natural > > persons behind the partnership being preserved, without directly > > claiming rights for partnerships

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Much of what you've written can be treated as the rights of natural > persons behind the partnership being preserved, without directly > claiming rights for partnerships. For example, for fora participation, > all messages,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, comex wrote: > For example, R101 (v). If a > partnership I'm in is forced somehow to agree to a secret contract, > which imposes obligations to the partnership that devolve onto me, I > can claim R101 (v) on behalf of the partnership, lest I be indirectly > bound by a Mousetr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: >>> What's wrong with allowing partnerships to initiate CFJs anyway? >> Using them to circumvent Excess. I wouldn't want to loosen up >> any Excess limitations right

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R101, when I wrote it, was an experiment in "Agora as a society": > if we have real persons trying to exist, live or participate in > a virtual society that preserves, respects, or protects the natural > rights of its partici

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Using them to circumvent Excess. I wouldn't want to loosen up >> any Excess limitations right now. -G. > > Proto: Players SHALL NOT submit obnoxi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, comex wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, comex wrote: >> >>> Even partnerships should have the right of >>> participation in the fora >> >> Why? Partnerships are a rules-based constructs with no inherent na

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2008/7/18 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Why? Partnerships are a rules-based constructs with no inherent natural >> rights. -Goethe > > Being able to post to a-b is not exactly an inherent natural right. R101, when I wrote it, was an experiment in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using them to circumvent Excess. I wouldn't want to loosen up > any Excess limitations right now. -G. Proto: Players SHALL NOT submit obnoxious CFJs that do not serve to resolve legitimate matters of controversy. Whenever

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, comex wrote: > >> Even partnerships should have the right of >> participation in the fora > > Why? Partnerships are a rules-based constructs with no inherent natural > rights. -Goethe Because they ot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: >> What's wrong with allowing partnerships to initiate CFJs anyway? > > Using them to circumvent Excess. I wouldn't want to loosen up > any Excess limitations right now. -G. > Yes,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: > What's wrong with allowing partnerships to initiate CFJs anyway? Using them to circumvent Excess. I wouldn't want to loosen up any Excess limitations right now. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/18 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Why? Partnerships are a rules-based constructs with no inherent natural > rights. -Goethe Being able to post to a-b is not exactly an inherent natural right.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, comex wrote: > Even partnerships should have the right of > participation in the fora Why? Partnerships are a rules-based constructs with no inherent natural rights. -Goethe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:15 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Proto-Proposal: Indirect partnership rights >> (AI = 2, please) >> >> Amend Rule 2145 (Partnerships) by appending this text: >> >> The ability of a part

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Indirect partnership rights

2008-07-18 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proto-Proposal: Indirect partnership rights > (AI = 2, please) > > Amend Rule 2145 (Partnerships) by appending this text: > > The ability of a partnership's members to exercise rights in eir > own names shall, prima