Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread omd
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:44 PM, omd wrote: > Here's a question. > >      An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule or contest >      (hereafter its backing document), and existing solely because >      its backing document defines its existence. > > If oblique references from other rules ar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread omd
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Warrigal wrote: > Note that "class" isn't actually defined by the rules. It could just > as easily be "type", or even "set". If the rules state that something > is a class of asset, that doesn't really tell us anything we didn't > already know. Here's a question.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread Warrigal
Note that "class" isn't actually defined by the rules. It could just as easily be "type", or even "set". If the rules state that something is a class of asset, that doesn't really tell us anything we didn't already know. Now, here's what the key thing to realize is, as I see it. An asset only exis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, com...@gmail.com wrote: > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > No, the operative phrase in currency is "class". > > "Ribbons are a class of fixed assets." > - Rule 2199 > > So a particular Ribbon is actually in two distinct classes o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread comexk
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > No, the operative phrase in currency is "class". "Ribbons are a class of fixed assets." - Rule 2199 So a particular Ribbon is actually in two distinct classes of asset...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Warrigal wrote: > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal  wrote: > >> > > The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon > >> > > then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal  wrote: >> > > The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon >> > > then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is white; >> > > even though the rules stop using t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 09/08/2010 12:07 AM, omd wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal wrote: > > > The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon > > > then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is white; > > > even though th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On 09/08/2010 12:07 AM, omd wrote: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal wrote: The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is white; even though the rules stop using the term "white ribbon", white does not c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread omd
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal wrote: > The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon > then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is white; > even though the rules stop using the term "white ribbon", white does > not cease to be a color. (Likewise,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Warrigal wrote: >> While this does result in White Ribbons not being needed for a >> Renaissance win (as White is no longer mentioned in the rule), it does >> not result in White Ribbons ceasing to exist, as t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Warrigal wrote: > While this does result in White Ribbons not being needed for a > Renaissance win (as White is no longer mentioned in the rule), it does > not result in White Ribbons ceasing to exist, as they are never > destroyed and are still implicitly defined.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keba wrote: > Proposal "White Renaissance" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee) > {{{ > Amend Rule 2199 "Ribbons" by removing: > >        (except for White Ribbons, which can be awarded at any time >        within a month after they are earned) > > [So, no one posses

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 17:06 -0400 schrieb omd: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote: > >> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place? > > > > See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this > > phrase is deleted, all white ribbons are deleted as well. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 17:06 -0400 schrieb omd: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote: > >> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place? > > > > See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this > > phrase is deleted, all white ribbons are deleted as well. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:06 -0400, omd wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote: > >> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place? > > > > See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this > > phrase is deleted, all white ribbons are deleted as well. > > Yeah

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread omd
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote: >> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place? > > See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this > phrase is deleted, all white ribbons are deleted as well. Yeah, why did their regular definition get removed? I like them

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 16:20 -0400 schrieb omd: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keba wrote: > > Proposal "White Renaissance" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee) > > {{{ > > Amend Rule 2199 "Ribbons" by removing: > > > >(except for White Ribbons, which can be awarded at any time > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread omd
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keba wrote: > Proposal "White Renaissance" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee) > {{{ > Amend Rule 2199 "Ribbons" by removing: > >        (except for White Ribbons, which can be awarded at any time >        within a month after they are earned) > > [So, no one posses