On 6/19/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> presumably the rule
>was voted upon at some point, yes?
I think you've stretched the concept of player action beyond any
meaningfulness.
Perhaps. As I said, that scenario is questionable. I have
Ian Kelly wrote:
>Then the Protectorate rule is broken. An adopted AI=2 proposal is
>also not Agora, which means that it cannot make arbitrary changes to
>Protectorates.
It depends on the interpretation in the would-be protectorate. I was
disconcerted to see the wording of the rule in B Nomic, w
On 6/19/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ian Kelly wrote:
>The exact wording is: "It also must allow Agora unrestricted access to
>make changes to its ruleset." There's no restriction on what an AI-3
>proposal can do
The rules of Agora have little concept of Agora as a distinct entity,
and
Ian Kelly wrote:
>The exact wording is: "It also must allow Agora unrestricted access to
>make changes to its ruleset." There's no restriction on what an AI-3
>proposal can do
The rules of Agora have little concept of Agora as a distinct entity,
and in particular not as an entity capable of effec
On 6/19/07, bd_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:00:54PM +0100, Zefram wrote:
> Roger Hicks wrote:
> >Primo Corporation hereby becomes a Protectorate of Agora.
>
> Ho ho. And it's a player of B Nomic too? InterNomic, even in its
> recursive form, is beginning to look tame.
On 6/19/07, bd_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As far as I know, Primo Corporation isn't a member of B Nomic - yet.
More importantly, B Nomic's rules require players to be able to pass a
turing test, and have a working e-mail address - does Primo Corporation
pass these requirements?
Primo just
On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:00:54PM +0100, Zefram wrote:
> Roger Hicks wrote:
> >Primo Corporation hereby becomes a Protectorate of Agora.
>
> Ho ho. And it's a player of B Nomic too? InterNomic, even in its
> recursive form, is beginning to look tame.
As far as I know, Primo Corporation isn't a
On 6/19/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ian Kelly wrote:
> Agora hereby submits to Agora as its benevolent protector.
I don't think that's enough to make Agora qualify to be a protectorate:
it also needs a mechanism for Agora to change Agora's rules arbitrarily,
which the ordinary prop
On 6/19/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This might allow something like the following:
psuedo-proposal
AI 2
{
Repeal all rules of the Protectorate Agora with Power 3 or greater
}
I don't think so; rule 2140 is pretty clear. So then the question
becomes whether my proposal is suffic
Ian Kelly wrote:
> Agora hereby submits to Agora as its benevolent protector.
I don't think that's enough to make Agora qualify to be a protectorate:
it also needs a mechanism for Agora to change Agora's rules arbitrarily,
which the ordinary proposal process probably doesn't count for. It wou
This might allow something like the following:
psuedo-proposal
AI 2
{
Repeal all rules of the Protectorate Agora with Power 3 or greater
}
BobTHJ
On 6/19/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/19/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roger Hicks wrote:
> >Primo Corporation hereby bec
Roger Hicks wrote:
>Primo Corporation hereby becomes a Protectorate of Agora.
Ho ho. And it's a player of B Nomic too? InterNomic, even in its
recursive form, is beginning to look tame.
-zefram
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